Грустная дама. Игра с Aq в различных спотах. Тренировка для Нл50-Нл200. (27.12.2015) - 19.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка будет посвящена игре с АQ, как в рейженных потах, так и в 3бет потах, с попаданием и без. 

 

Здесь вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этим вопросом. 

[Yorkshire]

Рег, 23/19, ВВСФ 41%, 3бет СБвс БУ 13%, фолд на 3бет СБ 3 из 4, 2к рук

 

 

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Могу я тут хоть где то выкинуть? На ривере в стеке 30 баксов осталось. Стоит ли тут 4бетить против такого фолда на 4бет? Или рука слишком хороша тут для блеф4бета?

 

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

 

SB: $65.28 (130.6 bb)

BB: $53.56 (107.1 bb)

MP: $92.70 (185.4 bb)

CO: $51.59 (103.2 bb)

Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB raises to $4.50, BB folds, Hero calls $3.25

 

Flop: ($9.50) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

 

Turn: ($19.50) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $10, Hero calls $10

 

River: ($39.50) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $39.50,

[Yorkshire]

Полуфиш, 32/17, ВВСФ 39%, 954 руки

 

 

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Сайзинг префлоп больше делать против такого с АQs? Сайзинг флопа тоже больше, раз он так мало выкидывает? На терне сыграл чек из-за его большого фолда на сбет и флоата 2 из 2 (хотя на момент раздачи там было 1 из 1). Или надо дальше продолжать вельюбетить? После чека терна - пуш или даем ему дальше блефовать? Но если вколить - он может не поставить ривер и недобор получится

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)

BB: $18.51 (37 bb)

MP: $74.16 (148.3 bb)

CO: $100.20 (200.4 bb)

BTN: $48.33 (96.7 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

2 folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, BB folds, BTN calls $2.50

 

Flop: ($7.50) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $3.75, BTN calls $3.75

 

Turn: ($15) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $7.50,

[Yorkshire]

Фиш 65/20, ВВСФ 31%, 122 руки

 

 

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Бет/бет/бет? Сколько ставить на ривере (у него 32,9 доллара в стеке)? Ривер бет/кол же?

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $57.22 (114.4 bb)

BB: $43.46 (86.9 bb)

UTG: $158.31 (316.6 bb)

Hero (MP): $62.43 (124.9 bb)

CO: $101.75 (203.5 bb)

BTN: $13.50 (27 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

 

Flop: ($3.25) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $2.60, BB calls $2.60

 

Turn: ($8.45) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $6.76, BB calls $6.76

 

River: ($21.97) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

BB checks,

[Yorkshire]

Фиш 68/46, ВВСФ 53%, 389 рук

 

 

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Бет/бет/бет? Сколько ставить на ривере (в стеке еще 48 баксов) )? И нужно ли ставить - ведь по сути мы тут ничего не вельюбетим, с тузами у нас в лучшем случае сплит. Если ставим, то что делать на пуш? Колить то в лучшем случае придется опять же на сплит. Но чек/кол на сплит тоже как то не очень и получается - ривер чек/фолд?

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $50 (100 bb)

Hero (BB): $65.25 (130.5 bb)

MP: $51.59 (103.2 bb)

CO: $106.27 (212.5 bb)

BTN: $94.08 (188.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

2 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $2.50

 

Flop: ($7.25) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $4.35, BTN calls $4.35

 

Turn: ($15.95) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $9.57, BTN calls $9.57

 

River: ($35.09) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

[LogAnt]

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)

BB: $61.62 (123.2 bb)

MP: $14.72 (29.4 bb)

CO: $55.10 (110.2 bb)

BTN: $62.89 (125.8 bb) 27 / 21 / oR BU 50 / ft3b 59 / call 3b ran. 16.5 / 4br 3.9 / постфлоп. чест. парень, много фолдит на кбет, не флоатит.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

2 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, BB folds, BTN calls $3.50

 

Flop: ($10.50) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

 

Turn: ($10.50) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $7.35, Hero folds

 

По умолчанию в таких спотах стратегия ч/колл одной улицы, но против такого, только ему пары оплачивать чек /коллом. Не лучше ли тут в него бареллить? 

 

[LogAnt]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $65.04 (130.1 bb)

BB: $126.06 (252.1 bb)  23 / 17 / 3b BB v BU 9 / ft4b oop 35.7 / call BB v BU 25 / 

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MP: $53.63 (107.3 bb)

CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

Hero (BTN): $55.70 (111.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB raises to $4.75, Hero calls $3.25

 

Flop: ($9.75) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $5.37, Hero calls $5.37

 

Turn: ($20.49) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $12.24, Hero calls $12.24

 

River: ($44.97) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $103.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $33.34 and is all-in

 

Ривером колл?

 

[LogAnt]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $41.48 (83 bb)

Hero (BB): $50.86 (101.7 bb)

UTG: $56.03 (112.1 bb)

MP: $50 (100 bb)

CO: $51.25 (102.5 bb)

BTN: $72.09 (144.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, SB calls $6

 

Flop: ($18) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero checks

 

Turn: ($18) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero checks

 

River: ($18) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $9, Hero calls $9

 

опп фиш 42 / 18 / 3b 6 / 329р 

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[LogAnt]

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[LogAnt]

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $71.47 (142.9 bb)

Hero (BB): $94.50 (189 bb)

MP: $51.11 (102.2 bb)

CO: $16.53 (33.1 bb)

BTN: $53.12 (106.2 bb) 21 / 17 / bu oR 38 / ft3b 61 / 4br 5.3 / call 3b 26 (9.9 ren.) / постфлоп 

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

2 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN raises to $11.50, Hero raises to $94.50 and is all-in, BTN calls $41.62 and is all-in

 

Flop: ($106.49) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Turn: ($106.49) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players, 2 are all-in)

River: ($106.49) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players, 2 are all-in)

 

Против такого будет лузово выставляться? Лучше коллом префлоп? или 3б / фолд?  у меня получилась такая картина против спектра AA-JJ,AKo,ATo,KJo,AKs,[50]AQo[/50] 4бета

Расчет EV

Размер пота:.............$16,75
Размер ставки Hero:......$48
Размер колла оппонента:..$41,6
Ожидаемое FE:............48,6%
Эквити vs спектра колла:.30,4%
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Результат:
EV действия Hero: -0,75$
расчеты произведены с помощью EV-calculator.

 

[Yorkshire]

Полуфиш, 32/16. ВВСФ 39%, Р1ст 32%, фолд на 3бет 0 из 2, 255 рук

 

 

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IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $28.51 (57 bb)

BB: $21.84 (43.7 bb)

MP: $97.70 (195.4 bb)

CO: $40.72 (81.4 bb)

Hero (BTN): $57.17 (114.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

MP folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

 

Flop: ($4.75) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (3 players)

BB checks, CO bets $3.32, Hero calls $3.32, BB folds

 

Turn: ($11.39) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

CO checks, Hero checks

 

River: ($11.39) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

CO bets $7.97, Hero calls $7.97

[Const]

Опп совершенно неизветсный <10 раздач
 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

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SB: $50 (100 bb)

BB: $58.76 (117.5 bb)

UTG+2: $18.73 (37.5 bb)

MP1: $42.06 (84.1 bb)

MP2: $62.25 (124.5 bb)

Hero (MP3): $50 (100 bb)

CO: $61.82 (123.6 bb)

BTN: $51.88 (103.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

2 folds, MP2 raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, 4 folds, MP2 calls $3

 

Flop: ($9.75) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

MP2 checks, Hero checks

 

Turn: ($9.75) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

MP2 bets $6.89, Hero calls $6.89

 

River: ($23.53) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

MP2 bets $17, Hero folds