Хороший коллдаун, плохой коллдаун, злой коллдаун, ч.2. Тренировка для игроков Нл50-Нл200. (29.10.2015) - 19.00

[Boggart York]

На данной тренировке мы рассмотрим споты в которых Хиро защищался пассивно против баррелинга и принимал решение о фолде/колле на терне и ривере, вспомним принципы "Концепции законченных и незаконченных линий" и уделим внимание структурам досок, различным ран-аутам и статам оппонентов, на которые следует обращать внимание при принятии решения о коллдауне. 

 

В данной теме вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с различными коллдаунами, как в позиции, так и без. 

[Boggart York]

В связи с переводом времени во многих странах на час назад, мы переносим время начала тренировки на 19.00 по Мск. 

[regtime]

1.Опп рег 26/20/6, steal SB-62%, Cbet OOP 52/66/40, ch/f OOP-78, aggr 33/41/30, WWSF-44, Wtsd-26, WonSD-53

$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $165.26 (165.3 bb)

Hero (BB): $138.36 (138.4 bb)

UTG: $147.68 (147.7 bb)

MP: $112.87 (112.9 bb)

CO: $100 (100 bb)

BTN: $101.53 (101.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

4 folds, SB raises to $2.37, Hero calls $1.37

 

Flop: ($4.74) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $3.55, Hero calls $3.55

 

Turn: ($11.84) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $8.88, Hero calls $8.88

 

River: ($29.60) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $26, Hero ?

 

2. Опп неизвестный, предположительно рег

$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $30.75 (30.8 bb)

BB: $129.60 (129.6 bb)

UTG: $103.70 (103.7 bb)

MP: $97.33 (97.3 bb)

CO: $106.03 (106 bb)

Hero (BTN): $100.50 (100.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($7.50) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

CO bets $4.62, Hero calls $4.62

 

Turn: ($16.74) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

CO bets $11.55, Hero calls $11.55

 

River: ($39.84) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

CO bets $25.88, Hero ?

 

[Norfolkk]

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2809172
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CO: $10.29
BTN: $12.71
SB: $10.00
Hero (BB): $16.39
UTG: $18.45

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K Q
3 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) T 7 J (2 players)
SB bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.44) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $1.15, Hero calls $1.15

River: ($3.74) K (2 players)
SB bets $2.40, Hero ??

 

Опп:

 

 

http://s020.radikal.ru/i710/1510/c6/3bb986fff043.png

http://s020.radikal.ru/i714/1510/e4/af806753e78a.png

 

[PaymeSSS]

Опп рег. в целом пассивный, особенно к риверу, я просто не мог придумать ему руку для баррелинга и "влюбился в свои АА"

 

http://i11.pixs.ru/storage/3/4/4/trenirovka_1696950_19306344.png 

 

 

Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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Hero (SB): $16.99 (106.2 bb)

BB: $16.13 (100.8 bb)

MP: $18.94 (118.4 bb)

CO: $16.24 (101.5 bb)

BTN: $18.84 (117.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.48, BB calls $0.32

 

Flop: ($0.96) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $0.61, Hero calls $0.61

 

Turn: ($2.18) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

 

River: ($5.38) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $3.42, Hero calls $3.42

 

 

[PaymeSSS]

Опп неизвестный фиш

 

http://i10.pixs.ru/storage/3/6/6/trenirovka_5381141_19306366.png 

 

 

Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

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SB: $17.29 (108.1 bb)

Hero (BB): $16.27 (101.7 bb)

CO: $21.84 (136.5 bb)

BTN: $19.16 (119.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

CO calls $0.16, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.64, CO calls $0.48

 

Flop: ($1.36) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

 

Turn: ($2.76) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

 

River: ($6.16) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4

 

[Const]

Опп рег 22/16, CallOpen 11,

3бет BUvsMP 3%

Fold to CB IP 51/47/63

Float flop 50

Agg 36/31/28

WWSF/WTSD/W$SD 43/24/55

 

Думаю, что с TT у меня 1-1,5 ставки на тонкое велью. Иногда ещё и сам себя могу вельюбетить против старшей оверпары. Нужно играть от чека? Опп достаточно много флоатит флоп, значит будет много воздуха на тёрне и ривере по таким ранаутам. 

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

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SB: $54.86 (109.7 bb)

BB: $50 (100 bb)

UTG+2: $54.18 (108.4 bb)

Hero (MP1): $56.82 (113.6 bb)

MP2: $28.36 (56.7 bb)

MP3: $18.61 (37.2 bb)

CO: $72.56 (145.1 bb)

BTN: $56.27 (112.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($3.75) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

 

Turn: ($8.75) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

 

River: ($18.75) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $8, Hero calls $8

 

 

[Const]

Опп фиш 58/25 выборка менее 100 рук.

RFI EP 30, Фолд на 3бет 0.

CB 100/-/-

AGG% 41/45/54

 

Против 30% KQo имеет 52% эквити, если фишь всёже что-то выкидывает на 3бет, получится, что против более узкого спектра спектра буду стоять плохо. Суммарый сквиз блайндов 10%. Решил зайти коллом. Возможно, стоило изолировать 3бетом? Попал в ТП, решил колдаунить несмотря на сайзинг. 

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

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SB: $50 (100 bb)

BB: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

UTG+1: $39.69 (79.4 bb)

UTG+2: $39.68 (79.4 bb)

MP1: $72.02 (144 bb)

MP2: $18.73 (37.5 bb)

MP3: $91.22 (182.4 bb)

CO: $59.76 (119.5 bb)

Hero (BTN): $60.02 (120 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $1, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($2.75) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

UTG+2 bets $2.63, Hero calls $2.63

 

Turn: ($8.01) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

UTG+2 bets $7.65, Hero calls $7.65

 

River: ($23.31) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

UTG+2 bets $22.26, Hero calls $22.26

 

 

[Const]

На ББ фиш 88/12, 70 рук.

Общий 3бет 6.7%

Fold to CB 50/50/-

Flop donk/fold 88/20

AGG% 66/74/58

 

Обычно К9s не открываю из МП, под фиша на ББ решил открыть. Попал на флопе в ТП, из-за слабого кикера решил не рейзить. Тёрном доехала QT решил колить тёрн и ривер без бубушки. 

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

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SB: $54.91 (109.8 bb)

BB: $220.03 (440.1 bb)

UTG+2: $70.92 (141.8 bb)

MP1: $53.35 (106.7 bb)

MP2: $50 (100 bb)

Hero (MP3): $101.13 (202.3 bb)

CO: $50 (100 bb)

BTN: $52.76 (105.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

 

Flop: ($3.25) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $1, Hero calls $1

 

Turn: ($5.25) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

 

River: ($15.25) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $15, Hero calls $15

 

[Const]

Опп рег 19/13

CallOpen CO 16

3бет COvsEP 3

WWSF/WTSD/W$SD 41/26/53

Fold to CB 49/42/44

AGG% 38/23/15

 

На флопе решил красть эквити рук оппонентов. По тёрну решил играть от чека, так как опп не блефовый и блефовать тёрн и ревер скорее всего не будет. По риверу положил оппонента на 8х+ и выкинул.

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

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SB: $65.45 (130.9 bb)

BB: $54.69 (109.4 bb)

Hero (UTG+2): $50 (100 bb)

MP1: $18.69 (37.4 bb)

MP2: $51.44 (102.9 bb)

MP3: $59.82 (119.6 bb)

CO: $83.16 (166.3 bb)

BTN: $86.18 (172.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1

 

Flop: ($6.25) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (4 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, MP3 calls $3.50, 2 folds

 

Turn: ($13.25) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, MP3 bets $8.43, Hero calls $8.43

 

River: ($30.11) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, MP3 bets $17.50, Hero folds

 

 

[LogAnt]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $87.41 (174.8 bb)

BB: $126.88 (253.8 bb)

MP: $52.10 (104.2 bb)

Hero (CO): $62.22 (124.4 bb)

BTN: $51.79 (103.6 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

MP folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN folds, SB raises to $4.90, BB folds, Hero calls $3.40

 

Flop: ($10.30) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

 

Turn: ($21.30) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $12.75, Hero calls $12.75

 

River: ($46.80) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $64.26 and is all-in, Hero calls $39.07 and is all-in

 

опп. 28 / 20 / 3б 11 / рест на сб 22 / в катоф 6 / 627 рук

постфлоп статы

http://s010.radikal.ru/i314/1510/a5/646de5e74ad1.png

 

Еще одна раздача с тем же оппом на катоф 29 открывает.

 

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $53.45 (106.9 bb)

Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)

MP: $64 (128 bb)

CO: $168.70 (337.4 bb)

BTN: $117.77 (235.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

MP folds, CO raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75

 

Flop: ($2.75) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

 

Turn: ($6.25) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25

 

River: ($14.75) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $11.25, Hero calls $11.25

 

 

 

И вот эту раздачу пожалуйста если можно

http://www.pokerability.net/community/topic/2197-%D0%BD%D0%BB-50-tt-mwp-with-fish-oop/

[koluha]

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

 

SB: 106.16 BB (VPIP: 26.08, PFR: 20.11, 3Bet Preflop: 9.13, Hands: 342)

BB: 143.84 BB (VPIP: 22.96, PFR: 18.37, 3Bet Preflop: 7.12, Hands: 831)

UTG: 118.12 BB (VPIP: 32.86, PFR: 21.94, 3Bet Preflop: 6.14, Hands: 732)

MP: 75.67 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 16.05, 3Bet Preflop: 8.24, Hands: 384)

Hero (CO): 100 BB

BTN: 151.06 BB (VPIP: 22.97, PFR: 16.47, 3Bet Preflop: 7.65, Hands: 447) BUvCO 3b 1 из 9, fold 8 из 9; cb: 58(7),75(4),w$wsf 64(70), wts 25(59), wsd 73(15)

 

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

 

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

 

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 7.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 5 BB

 

Flop: (16.5 BB, 2 players) J T 3

Hero checks, BTN bets 8.03 BB, Hero calls 8.03 BB

 

Turn: (32.56 BB, 2 players) 6

Hero checks, BTN bets 15.85 BB, Hero calls 15.85 BB

 

River: (64.26 BB, 2 players) 5

Hero checks, BTN bets 36.26 BB, Hero calls 36.26 BB

Showdown:

 

 

BTN shows K Q (High Card, King)

(Pre 40%, Flop 47%, Turn 30%)

Hero shows T A (One Pair, Tens)

(Pre 60%, Flop 53%, Turn 70%)

Hero wins 133.98 BB

 

 

[IvanDuke]

RFI CO 30, Ft 3b 45, Cb ip 65/48/42 WWSF 44, WTSD 27, W$SD 48 AF 41/33/24

 

Hero (BB): $51.54

UTG: $68.40

MP: $53.28

CO: $66.41

BTN: $50.00

SB: $88.23

 

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 6 4

2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1

 

Flop: ($3.25) 6 3 6 (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2

 

Turn: ($7.25) 5 (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $5, Hero calls $5

 

River: ($17.25) K (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $14.50, Hero ?  (Не нашел сил сфолдить, но на велью хуже у него ничего нет)

 

[koluha]

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

 

CO: 137.49 BB

Hero (BTN): 141.66 BB

SB: 126.61 BB

BB: 73.43 BB (VPIP: 38.95, PFR: 11.58, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 98), Donk 67, afq 71,59,41; wsd 37

UTG: 134.97 BB

MP: 142.95 BB

 

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

 

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

 

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

 

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 3 6 5

BB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

 

Turn: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 6

BB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

 

River: (33.5 BB, 2 players) J

BB bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

Showdown:

 

 

BB shows 2 T (One Pair, Sixes)

(Pre 34%, Flop 33%, Turn 23%)

Hero shows A Q (One Pair, Sixes)

(Pre 66%, Flop 67%, Turn 77%)

Hero wins 62.7 BB