Bb vs Bu - пассивная защита на постфлопе, ч.2. Тренировка для игроков Нл50-Нл200 (11.09.2015) - 18.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка посвящена теме игры на постфлопе, когда мы сделали колдколл на BB против опенрейза с BU и играем постфлоп без позиции и без инициативы с различными типами рук против широкого спектра защиты на BB. 

 

В данной теме вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с игрой BB vs BU, в качестве колдколлера на префлопе. 

[bonjwa]

Опп 141рука

http://i.imgur.com/W5tHwnl.png

http://i.imgur.com/vqPecgv.png

http://i.imgur.com/sEZuLK8.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $47.18 (94.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $71.27 (142.5 bb)
MP: $107.74 (215.5 bb)
CO: $51.94 (103.9 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.05, SB folds, Hero calls $0.55

Flop: ($2.35) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.35) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.56, BTN calls $1.56

River: ($5.47) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.65, BTN calls $3.65

[bonjwa]

Опп 453 руки 

http://i.imgur.com/zJn0mTZ.png

http://i.imgur.com/6YUE51U.png

http://i.imgur.com/fjIxGpK.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $60.10 (120.2 bb)
MP1: $62.20 (124.4 bb)
MP2: $50.23 (100.5 bb)
MP3: $67.21 (134.4 bb)
CO: $61.53 (123.1 bb)
BTN: $64.10 (128.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
5 folds, BTN raises to $1.06, SB folds, Hero calls $0.56

Flop: ($2.37) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.37) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($5.37) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.59, BTN calls $3.59

[bonjwa]

на оппа нет стат

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $121.26 (242.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $53.31 (106.6 bb)
MP1: $41.60 (83.2 bb)
MP2: $100.54 (201.1 bb)
MP3: $54.36 (108.7 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
5 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($12.25) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $8.19, Hero folds

[regtime]

Опп рег 19/16, steal BU-40, cbets IP 61/62/64, aggr 41/36/25, WWSF-45, WTSD-28,WonSD-48

 $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $119.69 (119.7 bb)

Hero (BB): $111.15 (111.2 bb)

UTG: $111.64 (111.6 bb)

MP: $31.68 (31.7 bb)

CO: $101.50 (101.5 bb)

BTN: $122.15 (122.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

3 folds, BTN raises to $2, SB folds, Hero calls $1

 

Flop: ($4.50) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $3.37, Hero calls $3.37

 

Turn: ($11.24) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $8.43, Hero calls $8.43

 

River: ($28.10) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $23, Hero ?

 

С какой самой слабой рукой здесь можно коллировать ривер? Не являются ли кбеты 60/60/60, как у оппа, завышенными(все-таки это больше 20% спектра трех баррелей, что явно перебор)?

[ASHman]

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager 

 

SB: $99 (99 bb)

Hero (BB): $114.01 (114 bb)

UTG: $88.99 (89 bb)

MP: $118.68 (118.7 bb)

CO: $225.65 (225.7 bb)

BTN: $223.02 (223 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, SB folds, Hero calls $1.50

 

Flop: ($5.50) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $4.13, Hero raises to $12, BTN calls $7.87

 

Turn: ($29.50) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $21, BTN calls $21

 

River: ($71.50) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks (?), BTN bets $37.25, Hero ??

 

 

Опп рег 27/20 wwsf 43 wts 29 agr% 30/27/21 

 

ривер bet&win 50% potsize =  89%(9)

 

Статы БН против блайндов:

http://s019.radikal.ru/i633/1509/a1/dca2e44ff2eb.png

 

Терн ставить я думаю тут надо (после бет\колл флоп, он 7 из 7 раз колил ставку терна) или я не прав? 

Что делаем на ривере? 

 

[IvanDuke]

Опп http://i.imgur.com/qkF56Jb.png

http://i.imgur.com/03ZuCdL.png

 

UTG: $102.75

MP: $53.49

CO: $110.26

BTN: $116.82

SB: $100.14

Hero (BB): $100.00

 

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J 9

3 folds, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

 

Flop: ($4.50) Q J 3 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

 

Turn: ($9.50) 5 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

 

River: ($19.50) 9 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $18, Hero folds

[LogAnt]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $51.75 (103.5 bb)

Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)

CO: $63.20 (126.4 bb)

BTN: $57.64 (115.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

CO folds, BTN raises to $1.12, SB folds, Hero calls $0.62

 

Flop: ($2.49) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

 

Turn: ($5.49) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $4.11, Hero calls $4.11

 

River: ($13.71) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $10.28, Hero folds

 

опп: 27 / 19 / ор бу 51 / цб ип 68/38/51 / агр 38/29/27 / ввсф 44 / втшд 28 / ввшд 56

 

[IvanDuke]

 

BTN: $255.02

SB: $46.31

Hero (BB): $108.94

CO: $102.78

 

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Q A

1 fold, BTN raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50

 

Flop: ($5.50) A K 5 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

 

Turn: ($12.50) 2 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $8, Hero calls $8

 

River: ($28.50) 9 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $20, Hero folds

 

Играл руку давно, Сейчас думаю префлоп 3б надо. Но как сыграно, ривер ? У нас Q  , блефов у него не хватает?

Опп RFI BTN 40, fold 3b 60%, cbet 73/45/65 (c/fold flop ip 60), AF 38/27/24, WWSF 45, WTSD 28, W$SD 58.

[AH225]

reg 25-20 , bu r1st 46.

wwsf 47 wtsd 29 w$sd 51

cbetIP 62-54-46 ,cbet/fold turn 35 ,fold river after call turn raise 50 .

aggr 39-37-28 

 

1) Есть ли рейз на велью по терну? Какие руки имеет смысл рейзить на велью и блеф по терну?

2) Если терн сыграли коллом, если ли смысл в рейзе/донке  на ривере? какие руки бля блефа мы можем использовать.

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem

5 Players

Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:

UTG  ($77.40) 77bb

CO  ($18.30) 18bb

BTN  ($100) 100bb

SB  ($44.12) 44bb

BB Hero ($160.77) 161bb

Pre-Flop: (1.50, 5 players) Hero is BB

 

2 folds, BTN raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

 

Flop: ($6.50, 2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75

Turn: ($16, 2)

Hero checks, BTN bets $11, Hero ?

River: ($79, 2)

 

[LogAnt]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $63.78 (127.6 bb)

Hero (BB): $50.75 (101.5 bb)

MP: $56.86 (113.7 bb)

CO: $20.18 (40.4 bb)

BTN: $78.85 (157.7 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

2 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50

 

Flop: ($2.25) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

 

Turn: ($5.25) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

 

River: ($5.25) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

 

опп: 27 / 21 / бу 56 / цб 63/59/36 / агр 32/31/27 / ввсф 44 / втсд 49 / втшд 25

 

[AH225]

reg 24-18 bu 1st 42. wwsf 44 w$sd 54

cbIP  64-50-50 aggr 34-27-27

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem

Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:

UTG  ($152.24) 152bb

CO  ($100) 100bb

BTN  ($110.96) 111bb

SB  ($106.10) 106bb

BB Hero ($180.32) 180bb

Pre-Flop: (1.50, 5 players) Hero is BB

 

2 folds, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

 

Flop: ($4.50, 2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($10.50, 2)

Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($24.50, 2)

Hero checks, BTN bets $21, Hero calls ?

[AH225]

BU 1st 56, cbIP 57-51-58

wwsf 44 w$sd 54

aggr 33-29-28

1)Какой наш низ диапазона колла по риверу? можем во флопзилле рассмотреть? 

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem

Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:

CO  ($102.28) 102bb

BTN  ($216.18) 216bb

SB  ($109.21) 109bb

BB Hero ($103.58) 104bb

Pre-Flop: (1.50, 4 players) Hero is BB

 

1 fold, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

 

Flop: ($4.50, 2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $2.37, Hero calls $2.37

Turn: ($9.24, 2)

Hero checks, BTN bets $5.93, Hero calls $5.93

River: ($21.10, 2)

Hero checks, BTN bets $13.82, Hero  ?

 

[LogAnt]

По раздаче IvanDuke с AQ мне кажется не будет там вэлью бета с ав

 

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