Колл vs фолд. Разбор больших колов на ривере. Тренировка для нл 16 и ниже (09.04.16) - 12.00

[IvanDuke]

На данной тренировке на примере ваших раздач мы будем разбирать все возможные споты, где в раздаче ваше слово на ривере оказалось последним и вы сделали минусовой кол; либо все же вы забрали пот, но сомневаетесь, было ли решение плюсовым на дистанции.            

 

Мы обсудим факторы, которые необходимо учитывать при принятии решения о коле ставки на ривере и разберем основные причины ошибочних колов. 

 

Пожалуйста, выкладывайте в данном топике свои проблемные раздачи.

[colven]

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $2.24 (44.8 bb)

BB: $5.48 (109.6 bb)

Hero (MP): $5.61 (112.2 bb)

CO: $9.05 (181 bb)

BTN: $5.62 (112.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

Hero raises to $0.15, 3 folds, BB calls $0.10

 

Flop: ($0.32) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

 

Turn: ($0.92) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $0.88, Hero calls $0.88

 

River: ($2.68) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $2.57, Hero

 

Results: $7.82 pot ($0.32 rake)

Final Board: 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

BB show http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gifhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

Статы

 

 

 

 

 

[Dimentiy54]

Против рега,выборка маленькая на 92 руки,не вижу смысла больше выкладывать статов.

 

 

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Есть ли колл по риверу?

 

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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Hero (SB): $11.62 (116.2 bb)

BB: $12.16 (121.6 bb)

UTG: $10 (100 bb)

MP: $11.69 (116.9 bb)

CO: $16.18 (161.8 bb)

BTN: $10.23 (102.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds

 

Flop: ($0.70) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, MP bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.50, MP calls $0.90

 

Turn: ($3.70) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $2.40, MP calls $2.40

 

River: ($8.50) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $1.40, MP raises to $7.49 and is all-in, Hero ??

 

 

 

[AKIAF]

Раздача с нл25, но это мои небольшие вылазки на лимит

Первый рейзер малоизвестный рег, второй фиш (донк терн 40%). Стоит ли колить бет терн даже такого размера с АД и если есть кол, то на такой карте ривера точно выбрасывать уже нельзя?

 

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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $55.20 (220.8 bb)

Hero (BB): $29.79 (119.2 bb)

MP: $38.01 (152 bb)

CO: $37.72 (150.9 bb)

BTN: $27.20 (108.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

2 folds, BTN raises to $0.59, SB raises to $0.93, Hero raises to $2.80, BTN folds, SB calls $1.87

 

Flop: ($6.19) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $2.95, SB calls $2.95

 

Turn: ($12.09) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

 

River: ($17.59) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $2.50

[colven]

Запись будет? Не успеваю.

[aventadur]

Рук мало на оппонентов,на первого 150 рук,на второго 600 рук.На первого статистики практически нет на постфлопе,на второго выложил попап на ривере,хоть выборки и нет.Есть ли кол на ривере в первом и во втором случаях?

 

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

 

SB: $10 (100 bb)

BB: $10 (100 bb)

MP: $10.77 (107.7 bb)

CO: $6.73 (67.3 bb)

Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

MP calls $0.10, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.59, 2 folds, MP calls $0.49

 

Flop: ($1.33) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

MP checks, Hero bets $1.06, MP calls $1.06

 

Turn: ($3.45) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

MP checks, Hero bets $3.02, MP calls $3.02

 

River: ($9.49) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

MP bets $6.10 and is all-in, Hero ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

 

SB: $18.27 (182.7 bb)

BB: $22.86 (228.6 bb)

Hero (UTG): $10.23 (102.3 bb)

MP: $13.62 (136.2 bb)

CO: $17.70 (177 bb)

BTN: $10 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 4 folds

 

Flop: ($0.75) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.66, MP calls $0.66

 

Turn: ($2.07) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $1.82, MP calls $1.82

 

River: ($5.71) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, MP bets $10.84, Hero ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dimentiy54]

Против рега.

 

Флоп относительно сухой не стал рейзить,вообще как грамотно разделять с натцем свою игру,в смысле когда лучше через колл разыграть а когда через чек?

 

Статистика

 

 

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10, $0.02 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $21.48 (214.8 bb)

Hero (BB): $16.63 (166.3 bb)

UTG: $10.29 (102.9 bb)

MP: $11.21 (112.1 bb)

CO: $10 (100 bb)

BTN: $10 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

 

Flop: ($0.77) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55

 

Turn: ($1.87) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $1.34, Hero raises to $3.60, CO calls $2.26

 

River: ($9.07) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero ??

 

 

[AKIAF]

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Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $49.78 (311.1 bb)

BB: $16 (100 bb)

UTG: $20.27 (126.7 bb)

MP: $16 (100 bb)

Hero (CO): $17.59 (109.9 bb)

BTN: $17.47 (109.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.24

 

Flop: ($0.88) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $0.59, BB calls $0.59

 

Turn: ($2.06) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $1.38, BB raises to $3.74, Hero calls $2.36

 

River: ($9.54) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $11.27 and is all-in, 

[TheMentalist]

Опп 95/35  фолд на 3бет 0(1)

  22 руки

Агг 19(16) 60(5)

 

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Poker Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($5)
UTG ($5.79)
MP ($4.98)
CO ($5.07)
Button ($6.55)
Hero (SB) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif
1 fold, MP raises $0.15, CO calls $0.15, Button calls $0.15, Hero raises $0.78, 2 folds, CO calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.95) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1, Hero raises $4.20 (All-In), CO calls $3.20

Turn: ($10.35) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($10.35) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.35

Results below:

Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/club.gif (high card, Ace).
CO had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif (one pair, fours).
Outcome: CO won $9.92