Постфлоп в широких спектрах - Bb vs SB. Тренировка для Нл50 и выше. (07.08.2015) - 19.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка посвящена теме игры на постфлопе, когда вы защитили свой большой блайнд коллом и играете постфлоп в позиции, но без инициативы с различными типами рук против широкого спектра стила с SB. 

 

В данной теме вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с игрой BB vs SB, в качестве коллера на префлопе. 

 

[regtime]

Насколько широко нужно вообще защищать BBvsSB? Понятно, что у оппонентов разный постфлоп, но в среднем против 50% рейза от неизвестного сколько нужно защищать? Достаточно ли показывать лузрейт в таких спотах (колдколл BBvsSB) лучше, чем -100бб/100 рук или винрейт должен быть положительным?

 

 

1. Опп - рег 25/18, стил СБ-33%, кбеты ООП 34/20/-, отлож. кбет-30%, ч/ф ООП флоп-61%, агр. 36/32/31, WWSF-48, WTSD-28, WonSD-55

$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $100 (100 bb)

Hero (BB): $102.84 (102.8 bb)

CO: $121.13 (121.1 bb)

BTN: $36.79 (36.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

2 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

 

Flop: ($6) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero checks

 

Turn: ($6) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $5.70, Hero calls $5.70

 

River: ($17.40) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $17.40, Hero ?

 

Есть ли колл на ривере? С какими Ах руками нужно ставить флоп? 

 

 

2. Опп - агрессивный рег 31/23, стил СБ-48, кбеты ООП 45/38/70, ч/р в кач. префлоп-агрессора на терне-33(15), выигрыш после ч/р на терне-45, агр. 29/27/30, WWSF-45, WTSD-35, WonSD-52  

 $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $242.68 (242.7 bb)

Hero (BB): $103 (103 bb)

UTG: $149.96 (150 bb)

MP: $141.45 (141.5 bb)

CO: $100 (100 bb)

BTN: $156.33 (156.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

4 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

 

Flop: ($6) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

 

Turn: ($13.50) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $7.25, SB raises to $19, Hero ?

 

Ставить ли в ответ на его чек на терне? Коллим ли рейз?

 

[anton1989x]

OnGame - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

 

UTG: 359.6 BB (VPIP: 26.34, PFR: 20.24, 3Bet Preflop: 7.12, Hands: 3,933)

MP: 41 BB (VPIP: 21.75, PFR: 20.49, 3Bet Preflop: 8.12, Hands: 2,103)

CO: 38.96 BB (VPIP: 56.83, PFR: 17.99, 3Bet Preflop: 11.25, Hands: 144)

BTN: 97 BB (VPIP: 25.91, PFR: 21.07, 3Bet Preflop: 7.55, Hands: 7,796)

SB: 130.7 BB (VPIP: 38.58, PFR: 17.59, 3Bet Preflop: 2.71, Hands: 524)

Hero (BB): 180.86 BB

Статы на рега http://s18.postimg.org/eszma9svd/reg_stats70815.jpg

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

 

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  5 5  

 

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

 

Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players)  4 5 7  

Hero bets 6.5 BB, CO calls 6.5 BB, BTN raises to 19.5 BB, Hero calls 13 BB, fold

 

Turn: (52 BB, 2 players)  A  

Hero checks, BTN bets 39 BB, Hero raises to 78 BB, BTN calls 36.5 BB and is all-in

River: (203 BB, 2 players)  8  

Как сыграно ? есть ли донк на флопе и пуш на тёрне ?

[idn07]

Оп рег открывает с сб 51%, ввсф 47, всд53, кбеты 38 40 42

 

Статы

http://i.imgur.com/yxBPZmV.png

 

 

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $278.49 (139.2 bb)

Hero (BB): $226.16 (113.1 bb)

UTG: $239.77 (119.9 bb)

MP: $203.10 (101.6 bb)

CO: $200 (100 bb)

BTN: $200 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

4 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

 

Flop: ($12) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

 

Turn: ($28) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $18, Hero calls $18

 

River: ($64) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $44, Hero ?

 

Results: $64 pot ($2.80 rake)

Final Board: 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

SB mucked and won $61.20 ($29.20 net)

Hero mucked 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif and lost (-$32 net)

 

Колл, фолд, рейз? Возможно предыдущие улицы иначе можно сыграть? На какие статы смотреть?

[Yorkshire]

Фиш 44/18 (343 рук), стил с сб 50% (его не 3бетили с ББ в таких позах), сбеты 29% флоп, 1 из 2 терн, 1 из 1 ривер, агрессия 34/22/25.

Сколько улиц я должен тут колить? И может стоит ставить флоп на его чек? То сколько улиц по таким ранаутам?

 

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

 

SB: $43.27 (86.5 bb)

Hero (BB): $81.96 (163.9 bb)

MP: $68.35 (136.7 bb)

CO: $56.37 (112.7 bb)

BTN: $50 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

3 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

 

Flop: ($3) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero checks

 

Turn: ($3) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

 

River: ($6) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

[idn07]

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[bonjwa]

Опп 22/16, как играть такой спот с этим оппонентом

http://i.imgur.com/HM94Juj.png

 

http://i.imgur.com/Js4iPhg.png

 

http://i.imgur.com/IUZxFp8.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

SB: $64.75 (129.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $52.64 (105.3 bb)
MP: $85.68 (171.4 bb)
CO: $51.50 (103 bb)
BTN: $8.09 (16.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
3 folds, SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.50) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($6.50) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.29, SB calls $4.29

River: ($15.08) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10.08, SB calls $10.08

[bonjwa]

Как играем

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/zPRIDwW.png

 

http://i.imgur.com/e3ggKgu.png

 

http://i.imgur.com/VpnnhMK.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $67.36 (134.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $35.91 (71.8 bb)
UTG+2: $50 (100 bb)
MP1: $74.69 (149.4 bb)
MP2: $69.75 (139.5 bb)
MP3: $79.01 (158 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif
7 folds, SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.50) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

Turn: ($5.70) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.79, SB calls $3.79

River: ($13.28) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8.87, SB calls $8.87

[bonjwa]

Как играем

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/YHcUdFS.png

http://i.imgur.com/Wha8UYE.png

 

http://i.imgur.com/yzfSbkP.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players

SB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $40.75 (81.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif
BTN folds, SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.50) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1.67, Hero calls $1.67

Turn: ($5.84) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.91, SB raises to $12, Hero calls $8.09

River: ($29.84) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
SB bets $18, Hero folds