Пробитый чек. Игра чек/коллами в качестве ПФР. Тренировка для Нл50-Нл200. (24.12.2015) - 19.00

[Boggart York]

Тренировка будет посвящена разбору спотов, в которых Хиро выступает в качестве ПФР на любой из позиций и решает (или думает) играть от чек/колла. 

 

Здесь вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этим вопросом. 

[mapcel]

Хотелось бы в этой раздаче накидать наш спектр чек/кола по трём улицам.

 

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $151.76 (151.8 bb)

BB: $105.40 (105.4 bb)

BTN: $108.66 (108.7 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

BTN folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

 

Flop: ($6) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $4.26, Hero calls $4.26

 

Turn: ($14.52) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $9.37, Hero calls $9.37

 

River: ($33.26) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $24, Hero folds

 

Опп: слабый рег

колдкол ББ вс СБ 35 3бет 7 Фолд на 4бет 40 (20)

Фолд на канбет в позе 46/50/40 Рейзы в позе 10/ 2/ 0(20)

Флоат в позе 38

Агрессия 31/28/22

WTSD 29 W$SD 53 WWSF 44

 

На флопе решил, что у меня всего одна улица велью, а для превращения в блеф рука слишком сильная

 

[mapcel]

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $212.52 (212.5 bb)

BB: $110.85 (110.9 bb)

UTG: $124.12 (124.1 bb)

MP: $39.39 (39.4 bb)

CO: $114.41 (114.4 bb)

BTN: $124.40 (124.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

 

Flop: ($6) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $3.87, Hero calls $3.87

 

Turn: ($13.74) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $9.76, Hero calls $9.76

 

River: ($33.26) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $23, Hero folds

 

Опп агрессивный неизвестный рег, миксует нл100-нл400

 

[mapcel]

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $283.40 (283.4 bb)

BB: $139.13 (139.1 bb)

MP: $105.38 (105.4 bb)

CO: $100 (100 bb)

BTN: $110.83 (110.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

3 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

 

Flop: ($6) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB checks

 

Turn: ($6) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB checks

 

River: ($6) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB checks

 

 

Опп неизвестный рег.

 

Стоило ли ставить на тёрне? 

[Yorkshire]

Мой спектр открытия: AA-22,AKo-A7o,KQo-K9o,QJo-Q9o,JTo-J9o,T9o,98o,AKs-A2s,KQs-K2s,QJs-Q4s,JTs-J7s,T9s-T7s,98s-97s,87s-86s,76s-75s,65s-64s,54s

 

Что уводить в диапазон чек/кола на такой доске и по таким ранаутам?

 

Оппонент (ВВСФ 41%):

 

 

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http://my.jetscreenshot.com/4723/m_20151224-7frt-11kb.jpg

 

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

 

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)

BB: $68.92 (137.8 bb)

MP: $45.14 (90.3 bb)

CO: $61.97 (123.9 bb)

BTN: $62.96 (125.9 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with ***

3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

 

Flop: ($3) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

 

Turn: ($7.20) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75

 

River: ($16.70) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $12.70,

[Const]

Можно проверить наш с ЛогАнтом разбор плиз?

Борд:           
 

Спектр открытия с CO

 

AA-22,AKo-A7o,KQo-KTo,QJo,AKs-A2s,KQs-K9s,QJs-Q9s,JTs-J9s,T9s-T8s,98s-97s,87s,76s,65s

 

 

Разбор во флопзилле

 

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Вопросы:

1. Что делать с карманками 66-77.

2. Чек-колим или кбетим 33-44 с бекдор ФД по одной карте?

3. На тёрне лучше чек-коли ТТ-JJ или викпары, которые чек-колили со флопа?

 

На всякий случай спектр кбета

 

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[Const]

Ещё один пробитый разбор ))

 

Борд         

 

Спектр тот же.

 

Разбор:
 

 

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Вопросы:

1. Нормально ли все 7х отправлять в блеф?

2. Чек-колим флоп с TT-JJ?

3. Нужно ли чек-колить КJ с валетом в масть или чек-колим/ставим весь KJ?
4. QJ-QT без бекдора лучше ставить а с бекдором чек-колить?

 

На всякий случай разбор кбета

 

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[IvanDuke]

BTN fish           cc 3b 17%, float bet 3bpot 50/80/80. AF 30/40/50. WWSF 56%, WTSD 33%, W$SD 37, cbet 3bpot as pfr75/100/-

 

BTN: $152.17

SB: $50.00

BB: $51.50

UTG: $93.64

Hero (MP): $56.16

CO: $52.92

 

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with A A

UTG raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $4.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $3

 

Flop: ($14.25) T 8 T (3 players)

UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $6.80, UTG calls $6.80, Hero calls $6.80

 

Turn: ($34.65) 8 (3 players)

UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $33.09, UTG folds, Hero raises to $44.86 all in, BTN calls $11.77

 

River: ($124.37) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

 

[IvanDuke]

Опп 27/20     coldcall Mp вс Ep 17%, 3b 3%. 

POSTFLOP http://i.imgur.com/y2Bs9KF.png

 

SB: $102.09

BB: $101.50

Hero (UTG): $100.00

MP: $104.91

CO: $112.79

BTN: $97.50

 

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with K K

Hero raises to $3, MP calls $3, 4 folds

 

Flop: ($7.50) 5 6 8 (2 players)

Hero checks, MP bets $4, Hero calls $4

 

Turn: ($15.50) Q (2 players)

Hero checks, MP bets $10, Hero calls $10

 

River: ($35.50) T (2 players)

Hero checks, MP bets $24, Hero calls $24

 

[IvanDuke]

как играть предыдущую руку если у оппа был бы адекватный ккол префлопа (до 7-10%) ?