Проблемные топ пары. Разбор сложных спотов при розыгрыше ТП. Тренировка для Нл16 и ниже. (21.11.2015) - 16.30

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка будет посвящена игре с топа парами, как в рейженных потах, так и в 3бет потах и разбору тех ситуаций в которых игрок не знает, как лучше разыграть его топ пару. 

 

Здесь вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этим вопросом. 

[PaymeSSS]

Рег, 4к рук. 

Смутил маленький % рейза и дипы. И есть ли тут сбет на велью. ФД доска на велью + кража эквити?

А что если тут 100бб стеки?

 

 

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WPN, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $36.97 (147.9 bb)

Hero (BB): $39.38 (157.5 bb)

UTG: $30.62 (122.5 bb)

MP: $22.02 (88.1 bb)

CO: $14.56 (58.2 bb)

BTN: $32.67 (130.7 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1

 

Flop: ($3.10) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $2.25, BTN raises to $7, Hero folds

 

 

 

[oznaz]

IPoker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $1.43 (35.8 bb)

BB: $1.79 (44.8 bb)

Hero (UTG): $4.41 (110.3 bb)

MP: $5.48 (137 bb)

CO: $14.62 (365.5 bb)

BTN: $4.46 (111.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

Hero raises to $0.12, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.12, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($0.30) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.24, BTN folds

 

Противник рег с колдколлом на баттоне 18 и 3бетом 6.Рук на него всего 200.Фолд на кбет 70.Попав в ТПТК всегда на автомате ставлю на тонкое велью.Но поковырявшись в раздаче причин на тонкое велью не нашел-на ставку ответит только KT+ с/без ФД,сеты и натсовые ФД.На полублефе для кражи эквити тоже не поставишь-выбью только руки слабее.Остается играть через чек,но противник в позиции и давать халявные карты не хочется.Как сыграть лучше?

 

[Boggart York]

Внимание! Начало тренировки переносится на 16.30 по Мск в субботу.

[Yorkshire]

Рег, 3бет ББвсБУ 11%, ВВСФ 45%, 1,1к рук, по фолдам на 4 бет нет выборки

 

 

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Ставим флоп на его чек?

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $50 (100 bb)

BB: $63.75 (127.5 bb)

MP: $42.71 (85.4 bb)

CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

Hero (BTN): $60.33 (120.7 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $2.50

 

Flop: ($7.25) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $4.35, BB raises to $60.25 and is all-in,

[PaymeSSS]

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Попутно вопрос, почему при переходе на нл25 в любом руме играю в ноль или минус и причем падает сильно красная, хотя вроде это не тот лимит, чтобы на нее обращать внимание. это что не дожимаю блефами или самих блефов мало?

 

WPN, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $14.09 (56.4 bb)

BB: $35.91 (143.6 bb)

UTG: $12.50 (50 bb)

MP: $36.46 (145.8 bb)

CO: $28.33 (113.3 bb)

Hero (BTN): $51.99 (208 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, CO calls $1.75

 

Flop: ($5.35) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

CO checks, Hero bets $4, CO raises to $10, Hero raises to $49.49 and is all-in

 

 

[Yorkshire]

По теме раздача http://www.pokerability.net/community/topic/2502-топпара-вс-фиш/

[PaymeSSS]

Неизвестный регуляр. Нужно ли ставить флоп? терн? на ривере может пихануть надо, вот я часто боюсь пихать.

 

WPN, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $54.32 (108.6 bb)

BB: $56.12 (112.2 bb)

MP: $21.21 (42.4 bb)

CO: $59.43 (118.9 bb)

Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

MP folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls $3.50

 

Flop: ($10.75) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

CO checks, Hero bets $5.11, CO calls $5.11

 

Turn: ($20.97) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

CO checks, Hero bets $9.96, CO calls $9.96

 

River: ($40.89) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

CO checks, Hero checks

 

 

[Yorkshire]

Фиш, 58/12, ВВСФ 45%, 374 руки

 

 

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Третий барель ставим? Каким сайзингом? Меня почему то всегда тянет на ривере ловить блефы от фишей. Флоп, терн может по-жирней нужно ставить?

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players

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Hero (SB): $54.71 (109.4 bb)

BB: $67.50 (135 bb)

BTN: $55.38 (110.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, BB folds, BTN calls $1.50

 

Flop: ($4.50) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $3.60, BTN calls $3.60

 

Turn: ($11.70) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $7.37, BTN calls $7.37

 

River: ($26.44) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

[Dimentiy54]

На СБ неизвестный всего три руки на МР опп 20/13 на 112 рук рейз ферст с мр 15%  сбэт 71(7)

 

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $7 (70 bb)

BB: $10 (100 bb)

UTG: $5.91 (59.1 bb)

MP: $10 (100 bb)

CO: $4.14 (41.4 bb)

Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

CO posts BB OOP, UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.60, CO folds, Hero calls $0.60, SB calls $0.55, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($2.10) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (3 players)

SB checks, MP bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30, SB calls $1.30

 

Turn: ($6.00) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (3 players)

SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

 

River: ($6.00) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (3 players)

SB bets $2.86, MP folds, Hero calls $2.86

 

Results: $11.72 pot ($0.53 rake)

 

 

[1Chu1]

Опп рег, 10/7. WTSD 27, WWSF 44, агрессия 37/25/26, рейз контбета флопа 12.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2821050

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BTN: $11.14

SB: $10.34

BB: $11.53

UTG: $7.83

Hero (UTG+1): $10.82

UTG+2: $19.90

MP1: $17.73

MP2: $10.85

CO: $17.49

 

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with K A

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

 

Flop: ($0.95) A 4 2 (3 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $0.59, MP2 folds, BB raises to $1.95, Hero calls $1.36

 

Turn: ($4.85) 3 (2 players)

BB checks, Hero checks

 

River: ($4.85) T (2 players)

BB bets $2, Hero calls $2