Не выкручивай мне яйца. Игра после рейза нашей ставки, ч.3. Тренировка для Нл16 и ниже. (16.11.2015) - 18.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка будет посвящена разбору ситуаций когда вы столкнулись с агрессией на постфлопе в виде рейзов ваших ставок (кбетов, донкбетов, бетов) и не знаете, что лучше делать - коллить, фолдить, ре-рейзить? 

 

Здесь вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этим вопросом. 

[Yorkshire]

Прошу разобрать эту руку и оценить оценку оценщика

http://www.pokerability.net/community/topic/2404-оверпара-с-рыбой-в-рейженном-поте/

[PaymeSSS]

СБ Жирный фиш 74 руки , 83/31/3, колдколы в среднем 95%, фолд на сбет 14 (7), чек/рейз 14 (7). АФ 27/36/38, ВВСФ 49

БТН с рег статами. РФИ 38, фолд на 3б 33, кол 3бет ренж 24, фолд на сбет в 3бп 14/0/0, рейзы 14/25/-

 

1.Ставить ли здесь сбет на флопе или играть чек/кол? Если ставить какой сайзинг в двоих?

2.На чек/рейз от рыбы с подобной рукой с большим эквити лучше колить, чем запушить? И без доезда флеша на терне на адекватную ставку снова кол?

3. Если бы рейзил рег?

4. Если бы рейзил рег и подколила рыба?

 

Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $35.90 (224.4 bb)

Hero (BB): $21.72 (135.8 bb)

MP: $19.83 (123.9 bb)

CO: $17.67 (110.4 bb)

BTN: $16 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

2 folds, BTN raises to $0.48, SB calls $0.40, Hero raises to $2.16, BTN calls $1.68, SB calls $1.68

 

Flop: ($6.48) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (3 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $3.40, BTN folds, SB raises to $7.52, Hero calls $4.12

 

 

 

 

 

[PaymeSSS]

Фиш, 4.6 к рук

 

 

http://i11.pixs.ru/storage/2/1/6/KKPNG_8535832_19529216.png 

 

 

Против такого неагрессивного простой фолд всегда?

 

Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $16.11 (100.7 bb)

BB: $14.49 (90.6 bb)

UTG: $19.35 (120.9 bb)

Hero (MP): $20.66 (129.1 bb)

CO: $24.66 (154.1 bb)

BTN: $18.61 (116.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

UTG raises to $0.64, Hero raises to $2.42, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.78

 

Flop: ($5.08) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

UTG checks, Hero bets $4.12, UTG raises to $16.93 and is all-in, Hero ?

 

 

 

[HabaNaHaba]

Опп 29/24 3-бет 11

Префлоп статы:

http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2015/1116/f6/6a0e4aabbba3f592ca04457de6c75df6.png

 

Постфлоп статы:

http://i74.fastpic.ru/big/2015/1116/66/965b3731acacb04e32b109a0c0ffb666.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $10 (100 bb)

BB: $19.45 (194.5 bb)

Hero (MP): $24.93 (249.3 bb)

CO: $10 (100 bb)

BTN: $6.29 (62.9 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

 

Flop: ($0.75) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.47, CO raises to $1.30, Hero calls $0.83

 

Turn: ($3.35) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $1.70, Hero ??

 

Как играть терн? Если колл терн, то колл любой ривер?

 

 

[HabaNaHaba]

Оппонент 47/36/23  3к рук

3-бет BB vs BU 24%. На 4-беты не падает.

 

http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2015/1116/ef/f82024f1978d415d2cee0849e12bf0ef.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $23.56 (235.6 bb)

BB: $13.07 (130.7 bb)

UTG: $14.60 (146 bb)

MP: $10 (100 bb)

CO: $7.76 (77.6 bb)

Hero (BTN): $18.55 (185.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.60

 

Flop: ($1.65) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $1.26, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $17.75, BB calls $9.27 and is all-in

 

Собственно вопрос что делать - коллить, фолдить, ре-рейзить? 

 

 

 

 

 

[OtB_RedMoron]

Опп стилит 62% с БТН, фолдит на трибет в 40% случаев, 4бет 10%. На постфлоп нет достаточной выборки.

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $33.40 (133.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $28.73 (114.9 bb)
MP: $21.25 (85 bb)
CO: $63.40 (253.6 bb)
BTN: $37.91 (151.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.10) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.15, BTN raises to $6.26, Hero calls $4.11

Turn: ($16.62) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($16.62) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $21.50, Hero ?
 

[OtB_RedMoron]

СБ неизвестный, ББ рег кол вс стил 42%, трибет 6%. ч/ф флоп 35%, ч/р флоп 13% AF 36-37-31

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $25.25 (101 bb)
UTG: $14.34 (57.4 bb)
MP: $41.37 (165.5 bb)
CO: $27.80 (111.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $37.21 (148.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.78, SB folds, BB raises to $3.02, Hero calls $2.24

Turn: ($7.54) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $5.40, Hero calls $5.40

River: ($18.34) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $16.33 and is all-in, Hero?

[OtB_RedMoron]

Опп неизвестный 11 рук.

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $74.39 (297.6 bb)
BB: $26.51 (106 bb)
Hero (UTG): $25 (100 bb)
MP: $22.54 (90.2 bb)
CO: $25.70 (102.8 bb)
BTN: $23.75 (95 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, CO folds, BTN calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.10) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.62, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.75, Hero calls $3.13

Turn: ($12.60) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($26.60) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $14.01, Hero ?

[Dimentiy54]

Не знаю даже как стоило сыграть на флопе,бэтом или чеком?

К сожалению не получилось присутствовать на тренировке в субботу чтобы рассмотреть разбор своих раздач,но мне кажется что я порой пассивно играю и часто фолдю где не надо,хотелось бы конечно в этом разобраться

 

Статистика на оппа на 4000 рук

 

 

http://i76.fastpic.ru/big/2015/1116/01/ce4214ebee4504bcbba33b49d3fff001.png

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Как надо было сыграть в этой раздаче? Спасибо.

 

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $9.38 (93.8 bb)

BB: $11.15 (111.5 bb)

UTG: $10 (100 bb)

Hero (MP): $10.33 (103.3 bb)

CO: $11.74 (117.4 bb)

BTN: $10.78 (107.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

UTG raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.60

 

Flop: ($1.95) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

UTG checks, Hero checks

 

Turn: ($1.95) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

UTG bets $1.23, Hero calls $1.23

 

River: ($4.41) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

UTG bets $2.10, Hero folds

 

Results: $4.41 pot ($0.20 rake)

Final Board: 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

UTG mucked and won $4.21 ($2.08 net)

Hero mucked Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif and lost (-$2.13 net)