Не выкручивай мне яйца. Игра после рейза нашей ставки. Тренировка для Нл25 и ниже. (15.09.2015) - 18.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка будет посвящена разбору ситуаций когда вы столкнулись с агрессией на постфлопе в виде рейзов ваших ставок (кбетов, донкбетов, бетов) и не знаете, что лучше делать - коллить, фолдить, ре-рейзить? 

 

В данной теме вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с данным вопросом. 

[Dmitriy85rus]

SB Reg 4к рук - 21/16, cold call SB vs CO - 6%, 3Bet SB vs CO - 3%, fold to CBet oop - 29%, check-raise -18%, 

 

Флоп просто колим? Из-за размера его рейза показалось что рука слабая, решил проверить (наверное, большим размером 3бетнул)  . Странно что он меня не перекрутил на флопе снова. И почему то не донкал турн (если у него был сет наверное он плохо сыграл?).

 

SB: $11.88 (118.8 bb)

BB: $17.44 (174.4 bb)

MP: $21.10 (211 bb)

Hero (CO): $14.65 (146.5 bb)

BTN: $10.14 (101.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is CO with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

MP folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

 

Flop: ($0.70) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $0.44, SB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.70, SB calls $1.80

 

Turn: ($6.10) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero checks

 

River: ($6.10) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $4.10, Hero folds

 

[Dmitriy85rus]

BB Fish 3k hands - 36/15, Total 3Bet - 1%, Total Cold Call - 29%, check-raise 8%

 

Флоп колить (если колим тогда, что делаем на турне не доехав?) или пушить? 

 

Нормально ли открывать коннекторы - гап коннекторы, слабые одномастные тузы, мелкие пары (22-55), если фиши сидят за нами в позиции?

 

Party, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $25 (100 bb)

BB: $15.58 (62.3 bb)

Hero (UTG): $25.85 (103.4 bb)

MP: $25 (100 bb)

CO: $38.36 (153.4 bb)

BTN: $37.40 (149.6 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, BB calls $0.50

 

Flop: ($1.60) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $1.01, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $25.10 and is all-in, BB calls $12.33 and is all-in

 

Turn: ($31.26) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players, 2 are all-in)

River: ($31.26) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players, 2 are all-in)

 

[Dmitriy85rus]

BU Fish 72/0

BB Reg 23/18

 

Сколько 3бетить на минрейз от рега? Или вообще колить?

 

Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)

BB: $25.35 (101.4 bb)

CO: $37.84 (151.4 bb)

BTN: $14.75 (59 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks

 

Flop: ($0.75) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (3 players)

Hero bets $0.54, BB raises to $1.08, BTN calls $1.08, Hero raises to $2.25, BB folds, BTN calls $1.17

 

Turn: ($6.33) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

 

River: ($6.33) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $3.01, Hero folds

 

 

[bonjwa]

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/RsaCCMw.png

http://i.imgur.com/fC1vli4.png

http://i.imgur.com/doNZNb4.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)
BB: $12.17 (48.7 bb)
MP: $28.30 (113.2 bb)
CO: $26.30 (105.2 bb)
BTN: $31.17 (124.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.51, BB calls $0.26

Flop: ($1.02) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.67, BB raises to $2.29, Hero calls $1.62

Turn: ($5.60) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($5.60) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.74, BB calls $3.74

[bonjwa]

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/t9NJU2r.png

http://i.imgur.com/40Geu2v.png

http://i.imgur.com/aXONyO7.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $9.76 (39 bb)
BB: $26.45 (105.8 bb)
UTG+2: $34.96 (139.8 bb)
Hero (MP1): $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $26.57 (106.3 bb)
MP3: $35.60 (142.4 bb)
CO: $51.84 (207.4 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.70, SB folds, BB calls $0.45

Flop: ($2.20) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.47, BTN raises to $5.25, BB folds, Hero calls $3.78

Turn: ($12.70) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9.10, Hero folds

[bonjwa]

Рекреационный игрок 87рук

http://i.imgur.com/lJ03eoE.png

http://i.imgur.com/sNNSEO8.png

http://i.imgur.com/HVq3X74.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $8.92 (35.7 bb)
BB: $14.19 (56.8 bb)
UTG+2: $25.78 (103.1 bb)
Hero (MP1): $25.25 (101 bb)
MP2: $28.26 (113 bb)
MP3: $41.95 (167.8 bb)
CO: $25.80 (103.2 bb)
BTN: $27.64 (110.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 4 folds, SB calls $0.60, BB folds

Flop: ($1.65) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.10, SB raises to $2.20, Hero calls $1.10

Turn: ($6.05) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($6.05) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2.89, Hero calls $2.89

[EVgenius]

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $23.35 (46.7 bb)
BB: $49.25 (98.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $53.17 (106.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with xx
Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.68, BTN calls $2.68

Turn: ($9.11) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.50, BTN raises to $15, Hero ?

опп

префлоп
http://savepic.org/7725258.jpg
постфлоп
http://savepic.org/7708872.jpg

с учетом  особенностей оппа как нам разыграть начиная с флопа:
-топ-пару/оверпару
-сет
-натсовое флаш дро
-флаш
 

[mauserr]

 

$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

 

Known players:

BU $10.95

SB (Hero) $10.05

BB $5.15

UTG2 $10.15

MP1 $11.25

MP2 $16.19

MP3 $10.96

CO $10.00

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with  ,  .

5 folds, BU raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, BU calls $0.65.

 

Flop: ($1.9)  ,  ,   (2 players)

Hero bets $1.30, BU raises to $3.70, Hero???

 

Опп неизвестный.

 

Эквити Выигрыш Ничья 
BU 57.11% 56.54% 0.58% JJ-88, KQs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s 
SB 42.89% 42.31% 0.58% KhKs 

 

Считаем, что опп пушит, нужно доставить 7,85 за банк 20,02:

7,85/20,02=0,38.

 

Это кол?

[koluha]

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

 

UTG: 107.94 BB (VPIP: 19.69, PFR: 16.74, 3Bet Preflop: 8.78, Hands: 1,151)

CO: 133.32 BB (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 20.23, 3Bet Preflop: 7.82, Hands: 1,710)

Hero (BTN): 113.7 BB

SB: 93.02 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 34.08, PFR: 26.37, 3Bet Preflop: 11.85, Hands: 1,181)

 

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

 

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

 

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

 

Flop: (7.5 BB, 3 players) 5 T 4

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, fold, BB calls 7 BB

 

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 8

BB checks, Hero bets 27 BB, BB raises to 54 BB, Hero raises to 104.2 BB and is all-in, BB calls 36.5 BB and is all-in

[Yorkshire]

Неизвестный. Как играть такие дрова без позы? Если колить рейз на флопе, то по доезду можем уже ничего и не получить с оппа

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

 

Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)

BB: $25.95 (103.8 bb)

UTG: $36.12 (144.5 bb)

MP: $26.58 (106.3 bb)

CO: $42.32 (169.3 bb)

BTN: $18.97 (75.9 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

 

Flop: ($1.50) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.80, BB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $6.25, BB raises to $25.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $18 and is all-in

[EVgenius]

опп рег 23/18
http://savepic.org/7688399.jpg

верно ли сыграно?
Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $143.12 (286.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $54.43 (108.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.14, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $2.86

Turn: ($13) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.25, BB calls $8.25

River: ($29.50) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14.79, BB calls $14.79

 

[Yorkshire]

Тоже неизвестный. Монстрдро сразу играем быстро? Или колим, пытаясь доехать?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

 

SB: $17.97 (71.9 bb)

BB: $70.30 (281.2 bb)

Hero (UTG): $28.49 (114 bb)

MP: $25.90 (103.6 bb)

CO: $12.36 (49.4 bb)

BTN: $37.29 (149.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($1.85) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $1.40, BTN raises to $3.68, Hero calls $2.28

 

Turn: ($9.21) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $6.60, Hero calls $6.60

 

River: ($22.41) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

[Sargtath]

46\22 96h

Flop AFq 22

 

 

http://storage5.static.itmages.ru/i/15/0915/h_1442332924_7654265_7e6177bc2a.jpg

 

 

SB: $20.12 (201.2 bb)
BB: $13.22 (132.2 bb)
MP: $10.14 (101.4 bb)
CO: $10.93 (109.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
MP raises to $0.35, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, MP calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2, MP raises to $8.55, Hero folds


 

[mauserr]

 

$0.08/$0.16 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

 

Known players:

UTG1 $10.83

UTG2 $18.08

MP1 $17.91

MP2 $24.48

MP3 (Hero) $20.64

CO $24.70

BU $16.00

SB $18.30

BB $16.80

 

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with  ,  .

3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.44, 4 folds, MP2 calls $0.96.

 

Flop: ($3.12)  ,  ,   (2 players)

MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.24, MP2 raises to $4.48, Hero???

 

Изи пуш?

 

http://a4.pokerstrategy-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/v1/user/cuh5y5nln1zgh/forum/lim53bdj0ydhuz7gqq9v.jpghttp://a5.pokerstrategy-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/v1/user/cuh5y5nln1zgh/forum/rtypnjrdxo6bxdp1xghs.jpg

[EVgenius]

опп
http://savepic.org/7711950.jpg
на флопе его спектр: дро/2пары+, на терне натсы пушили бы в нас, на ривере есть колл?

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $50.57 (101.1 bb)
CO: $110.96 (221.9 bb)
BTN: $53.55 (107.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.14, BB raises to $7, Hero calls $4.86

Turn: ($17) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $11.50, BB calls $11.50

River: ($40) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $30.57 and is all-in, Hero calls $30 and is all-in


 

[IvanDuke]

Опп

СС BB vs CO 12%, 3b BB vs CO 7

Fold to c/b opp 49/44/64, c/r 8 , bet after flop rr 61/44. W after flop c/r 90 (!!!).

W$wsf 51. WTSD 28. AF 44/33/25

 

SB: $59.91

BB: $50.00

UTG: $126.30

MP: $51.20

Hero (CO): $50.00

BTN: $50.00

 

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with J Q

2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1 

 

Flop: ($3.25) 2 J 9 (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $1.02, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.98

Надо ли по флопу сопротивляться против такого ?

 

Turn: ($13.25) T (2 players)

BB bets $10.25, Hero calls $10.25

 

River: ($33.75) 4 (2 players)

BB bets $15, Hero ? 

по риверу не ставит уже много - значит фолд?