А есть ли ставка? Разбор причин для ставок на низких лимитах. Тренировка для Нл16 и ниже. (13.09.2015) - 13.00

[Boggart York]

Если вы не до конца понимаете есть ли у вас причина для ставки против определенного оппонента или нет, тогда выкладывайте свои "сомнительные" раздачи для разбора и мы более подробно разберемся в этой теме. 

 

В данном топе вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этой темой. 

[bonjwa]

Рекреационный игрок

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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $23.64 (94.6 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $26.73 (106.9 bb)
MP1: $11.81 (47.2 bb)
MP2: $27.33 (109.3 bb)
MP3: $33.80 (135.2 bb)
CO: $30.61 (122.4 bb)
BTN: $13.86 (55.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
Hero raises to $0.70, 4 folds, BTN calls $0.70, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.75) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.34, BTN raises to $4, Hero calls $2.66

Turn: ($9.75) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.25, Hero raises to $22.03 and is all-in, BTN calls $6.91 and is all-in

River: ($28.07) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players, 2 are all-in)

[bonjwa]

Опп

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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $27.37 (109.5 bb)
BB: $26.36 (105.4 bb)
UTG+2: $26.24 (105 bb)
MP1: $17.74 (71 bb)
MP2: $28.92 (115.7 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $26.63 (106.5 bb)
BTN: $26.31 (105.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.65

Flop: ($3.95) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (4 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $2.63, BTN calls $2.63, 2 folds

Turn: ($9.21) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6.16, BTN calls $6.16

River: ($21.53) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $16.62, Hero folds

[bonjwa]

Опп

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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $29.05 (116.2 bb)
UTG+1: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (MP1): $25.94 (103.8 bb)
MP2: $11.50 (46 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $28.17 (112.7 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 5 folds, BB calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.50) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3.74, BB calls $2.74

Turn: ($8.98) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.54, BB calls $4.54

River: ($18.06) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $9.25, Hero folds

[blird]

Нет трени?

[Boggart York]

Хм, какой-то глюк со страницей тренировок. Попробую устранить в-ручную, если не получится, придется перенести занятие.

[agonia]

По первой раздаче, что-то странное выдумал, на флопе не запушил, а на спаренной десятке запушил.

[Boggart York]

Не, что-то намертво наша страница с тренировками отвалилась, за 10 минут починить это не удастся. Проведу тренировку в открытом формате на моем канале на Твитче - http://www.twitch.tv/boggartyork 

 

Добавляемся и смотрим, минут через 5 начнем. 

[agonia]

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $1.66 (16.6 bb)

BB: $15.16 (151.6 bb)

MP: $8.35 (83.5 bb)

CO: $10.31 (103.1 bb)

Hero (BTN): $14.32 (143.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.70

 

Flop: ($2.05) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $1.30, BB calls $1.30

 

Turn: ($4.65) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $2.95, BB calls $2.95

 

River: ($10.55) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero ?

[Boggart York]

ОТБОЙ. 

 

Заработало у нас Смотреть здесь - http://www.pokerability.net/ru/streaming/room/99/Причины-для-ставок-на-низких-лимитах

[Sargtath]

Странный рег 25\17
CC MP vs EP 13

 

 

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SB: $15.15 (151.5 bb)
BB: $15.32 (153.2 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $21.20 (212 bb)
CO: $19.28 (192.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $11.05 (110.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif
UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO folds, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($1.30) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.93, 2 folds, MP raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.57

Turn: ($6.30) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
MP bets $4.50, Hero folds

Results: $6.30 pot ($0.28 rake)
Final Board: Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif
MP mucked and won $6.02 ($3.22 net)
Hero mucked 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif and lost (-$2.80 net)
 

[Sargtath]

Есть ли ставка по терну?

 

 

BU 23\19
CC BU vs EP\MP\CO 9

 

 

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SB 59\29 AFq 58

Donk 50

SB: $5.95 (59.5 bb)
BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.46 (104.6 bb)
CO: $8.90 (89 bb)
BTN: $12.43 (124.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif
Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (4 players)
SB bets $0.90, BB folds, Hero raises to $2.90, BTN calls $2.90, SB calls $2

Turn: ($9.90) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BTN raises to $9.23 and is all-in, SB calls $2.75 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.76

River: ($27.17) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (3 players, 2 are all-in)


 

[blird]

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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Hero (SB): $26.56 (106.2 bb)

BB: $29.28 (117.1 bb)

UTG: $26.21 (104.8 bb)

MP: $23.12 (92.5 bb)

CO: $38.65 (154.6 bb)

BTN: $48.25 (193 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $2.10, BB folds, BTN calls $1.50

 

Flop: ($4.45) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

 

Turn: ($10.45) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $6, BTN calls $6

 

River: ($22.45) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $16.50, Hero calls $15.46

 

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[agonia]

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $5.86 (58.6 bb)

BB: $11.47 (114.7 bb)

MP: $6.77 (67.7 bb)

CO: $17.67 (176.7 bb)

Hero (BTN): $12.83 (128.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

MP calls $0.10, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, MP calls $0.30

 

Flop: ($0.95) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

MP checks, Hero bets $0.60, MP calls $0.60

 

Turn: ($2.15) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

MP checks, Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50

 

River: ($5.15) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

MP checks, Hero ??

 

 

 

[IvanDuke]

Опп http://i.imgur.com/edCn75T.png

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BTN: $50.50

SB: $159.47

Hero (BB): $50.00

UTG: $51.40

MP: $126.26

CO: $54.74

 

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q K

3 folds, BTN raises to $1.12, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN raises to $10, Hero calls $5.50

 

Flop: ($20.25) 4 T K (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

 

Turn: ($20.25) 9 (2 players)

Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

 

River: ($40.25) 5 (2 players)

Hero bets $30 all in... Думаю сейчас ривер ч/ф сыграл бы

[Yorkshire]

Эту руку можно разыграть как то по-другому? Может быть стоит ее быстро с флопа уже играть после такого экшена? И нужно ли ставить терн, после того как СБ чекнул терн (стеки все таки глубокие и нужно разгонять банк)? Рук мало. На СО фиш (62/28), склонный к агрессии, на СБ похоже регуляр

 

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

 

SB: $108.39 (216.8 bb)

BB: $50 (100 bb)

Hero (MP): $78.94 (157.9 bb)

CO: $59.75 (119.5 bb)

BTN: $53.42 (106.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BTN folds, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

 

Flop: ($6) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (4 players)

SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $3, SB raises to $10.50, BB folds, Hero calls $10.50, CO calls $7.50

 

Turn: ($37.50) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (3 players)

SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

 

River: ($37.50) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (3 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $34.50, CO raises to $47.75 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls $13.25

[mauserr]

PokerStars Hand #140743728907:  Holdem No Limit ($0.08/$0.16 USD) - 2015/09/13 1:53:56 CUST [2015/09/12 18:53:56 ET]

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8 players (stacks):

SB ($15.36)

BB ($23.72)

UTG2 ($16.22)

MP1 ($16.58)

MP2 ($16)

Hero (MP3) ($16.22)

CO ($16.24)

BTN ($34.09)

Blinds: $0.08/$0.16

 

Pre-flop: ($0.24, 8 players) Hero is MP3:  ,  

UTG2 calls $0.16, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.64, 2 folds, SB calls $0.56, BB folds, UTG2 calls $0.48

 

Flop:  ,  ,  ($2.08, 3 players)

SB checks, UTG2 checks, Hero bets $1.44, SB calls $1.44, UTG2 calls $1.44

 

Turn:  ($6.4, 3 players)

SB checks, UTG2 checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4, UTG2 raises to $14.14 (All-in), Hero folds, SB calls $9.28 (All-in)

 

River:  ($36.96, 2 players, 2 All-in)

 

Final Pot: $36.96

 

Терн ставим? Какой сайзинг? Смущает СБ.

 

SB

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UTG

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[mauserr]

PokerStars Hand #140726589134:  Holdem No Limit ($0.08/$0.16 USD) - 2015/09/12 19:46:29 CUST [2015/09/12 12:46:29 ET]

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7 players (stacks):

SB ($48.73)

BB ($29.47)

MP1 ($21.31)

MP2 ($17.49)

MP3 ($71.93)

CO ($17.45)

Hero (BTN) ($31.45)

Blinds: $0.08/$0.16

 

Pre-flop: ($0.24, 7 players) Hero is BTN:   ,   

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.32, SB folds, BB raises to $1.28, Hero calls $0.96

 

Flop:   ,   ,    ($2.64, 2 players)

BB bets $1.44, Hero calls $1.44

 

Turn:    ($5.52, 2 players)

BB bets $3.52, Hero calls $3.52

 

River:    ($12.56, 2 players)

BB bets $8, Hero folds

 

Final Pot: $12.56

 

Испугался глубоких стеков и решил сыграть пассивно. Стоит ли применять такую линию?

 

Как сыграно, если колим флоп, должны колить терн против такого? Ривер?

 

3bet BBvsBTN 9.4(53), общий Fold to 4bet 40(5).

 

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