Игра на блайндах против UTG-BU, с попаданием и без. Тренировка для игроков Нл16 и ниже. (22.08.2015) - 14.00

[Boggart York]

На этой тренировке мы будем разбирать споты, в которых Хиро оказался без позиции и инициативы на блайндах, сделав колл на префлопе. Поговорим про полублефовые подстройки связанные с игрой без попадания, а также про пассивную или агрессивную защиту с попаданием в доску. 

 

В данной теме вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы посвященные этой тематике. 

[Dimentiy54]

Здравствуйте

 

1)Такой вопрос меня интересует и после двух недельной игры в ноль,до нл100 вы бы рекомендовали играть на 9 мах или 6 мах?

На фр ни когда не играл и много слышал разные ответы,хотелось бы услышать ваше мнение и рекомендации на счет этого вопроса.

2) Как искать свои лики в хм и правильно проводить работу над ошибками?

В будущем хотелось бы увидеть на эту тему тренировку для старейшин и учеников,думаю многим будет познавательно.

Спасибо.

[Dimentiy54]

Оппонент не известный,больше был замечен как полу нитовый игрок.

По такой доске понимал что у оппонента.

Вопрос,стоит ли так разыгрывать 14 аутами на флопе? или все таки пассивней игра,будет прибыльной по дистанции?

Или как лучше было разыграть?

 

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $5.97 (119.4 bb)

Hero (BB): $7.31 (146.2 bb)

UTG: $3.75 (75 bb)

MP: $8.94 (178.8 bb)

CO: $6.92 (138.4 bb)

BTN: $5.57 (111.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.18, Hero calls $0.15, UTG folds, MP calls $0.15

 

Flop: ($0.85) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (4 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $0.65, MP folds, BTN raises to $1.70, SB folds, Hero raises to $7.11, BTN calls $3.67 and is all-in

 

Turn: ($11.59) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players, 1 is all-in)

River: ($11.59) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players, 1 is all-in)

 

Results: $11.59 pot ($0.48 rake)

 

 

[bonjwa]

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/JAHKn1R.png

http://i.imgur.com/KY4jeeL.png

http://i.imgur.com/i1GN4Vm.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

Hero (SB): $25.67 (102.7 bb)
BB: $20 (80 bb)
MP1: $30.79 (123.2 bb)
MP2: $28.61 (114.4 bb)
MP3: $22.95 (91.8 bb)
CO: $25.39 (101.6 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, CO folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero calls $0.90, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.50) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.50) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.75, Hero raises to $11.26, BTN raises to $22.50 and is all-in, Hero folds

[bonjwa]

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/A1t9fKF.png

http://i.imgur.com/fsiHcL2.png

http://i.imgur.com/QFyIz0N.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $74.56 (298.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $31.40 (125.6 bb)
UTG+2: $23.88 (95.5 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $9.12 (36.5 bb)
MP3: $48.82 (195.3 bb)
CO: $21.49 (86 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.60) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $1.72, Hero calls $1.72

River: ($7.04) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $5.65, Hero calls $5.65

[bonjwa]

Рекреационный игрок

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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $43.07 (172.3 bb)
MP1: $37.95 (151.8 bb)
MP2: $25.35 (101.4 bb)
MP3: $34.22 (136.9 bb)
CO: $54.26 (217 bb)
BTN: $51.11 (204.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
5 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: ($1.75) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.25) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($8.25) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

[DrZorba]

примерно понятно как играть против его ставок. Как играть когда он чекает подходящую для него доску? С чем самому ставить терн? C чем чек-колл 1 или 2 улиц? оппонент неизвестный

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $51.58 (103.2 bb)

Hero (BB): $56.70 (113.4 bb)

UTG: $64.40 (128.8 bb)

MP: $80.93 (161.9 bb)

CO: $85.40 (170.8 bb)

BTN: $5.12 (10.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75

 

Flop: ($2.75) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO checks

 

Turn: ($2.75) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $1.31, Hero calls $1.31

 

River: ($5.37) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $3.59, Hero folds

 

 

[Grosich]

Как оптимально сыграть в подобной ситуации?

 

Опп:

RFI 44%

 

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SB: $18.29 (73.2 bb)

Hero (BB): $26.52 (106.1 bb)

MP: $25 (100 bb)

CO: $18.45 (73.8 bb)

BTN: $25.26 (101 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

2 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB folds, Hero calls $0.25

 

Flop: ($1.10) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

 

Turn: ($1.10) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

 

River: ($2.30) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.77, BTN raises to $3.90, Hero calls

 

 

Есть какой то стандарт розыгрыша подобных ситуаций? Как сыгранно? Подкалывал, т.к. углубленные стеки и сложилась динамика за столами с оппом.

Опп RFI 17%

 

http://savepic.net/7186176.jpg

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Hero (SB): $31.27 (125.1 bb)

BB: $25 (100 bb)

UTG: $38.71 (154.8 bb)

MP: $31.68 (126.7 bb)

CO: $42.25 (169 bb)

BTN: $31.86 (127.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

UTG raises to $0.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.40, BB folds

 

Flop: ($1.25) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, UTG bets $0.95, Hero raises to $2.83, UTG raises to $4.71, Hero calls $1.88

 

Turn: ($10.67) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $3.56, UTG calls $3.56

 

River: ($17.79) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $5.94, UTG calls $5.94

 

[Dimentiy54]

Оппонент не известный,похож на регуляра 22/16 на 27 рук

 

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)

BB: $0.47 (9.4 bb)

MP: $3.64 (72.8 bb)

CO: $5.74 (114.8 bb)

BTN: $5 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

MP folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

 

Flop: ($0.45) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (3 players)

Hero bets $0.32, BB folds, CO calls $0.32

 

Turn: ($1.09) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.85, CO raises to $1.70, Hero ??

 

 

 

[Grosich]

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[altervister]

Играем с попаданием 

 

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $22.44 (224.4 bb)

Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)

UTG: $14.49 (144.9 bb)

MP: $10 (100 bb)

CO: $10.96 (109.6 bb)

BTN: $11.08 (110.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

 

Flop: ($0.65) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, MP checks

 

Turn: ($0.65) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.40, MP calls $0.40

 

River: ($1.45) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.80, MP raises to $3.20, Hero folds

 

 

 

 

 

Враг - 24/21 рфи - 19%

 

http://content.screencast.com/users/altervister/folders/Snagit/media/058434ec-5726-4617-918c-cf4fe89f1c45/08.22.2015-14.49.png

 

Решил, что на такой доске все же чаще получу кбет, или это оптимизм и такие оппы просто ставят с попаданием не обращая внимания на структуру доски?

 

Терн, ривер добираю с вторых пар.

 

Рейз ривера на микро лимитах = натс               или нет?

[Dimentiy54]

На оппонента 158 рук.

 

[спойлер]http://i66.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0822/aa/1f575209f4092309ef51f6d735796caa.png[/спойлер]

 

Покер звезд, $0.02/$0.05 безлимитному холдему наличными, 6 игроков

Покер Инструменты Питание От Холдем Менеджер - Конечная Покера Люкс.

 

ШБ: $7.23 (144.6 ББ)

ВВ: $4.53 (90.6 ББ)

УТГ: $6.11 (122.2 ББ)

МП: $4.79 (95.8 ББ)

Герой (Колорадо): $6.02 (120.4 ББ)

БТН: $2.68 (53.6 ББ)

 

Префлоп: герой-Co с Q вhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Вhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

УТГ пасует, МП рейз до $0.16, герой звонки $0.16, 3 створки

 

Флоп: ($0.39) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Вhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 игроков)

Депутат ставит $0.19, герой звонки $0.19

 

Очередь: ($0.77) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 игроков)

МП проверяет, герой ставки $0.49, депутат призывает $0.49

 

Ривер: ($1.75) Джhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 игроков)

МП проверяет, герой ставки $0.84, МП рейз до $1.80, герой складки

 

Результаты: $3.43 пот ($0.14 грабли)

Заключительный Совет: 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Вhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Джhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

Депутат сброшенные и выиграл $3.29 ($1.61 нетто)

Герой сброшенные вопросhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Вhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif и Lost (-$1.68 нетто)