Грубые ошибки в больших банках, ч.2. Тренировка для Нл25 и ниже. (17.08.2015) - 19.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка посвящена разбору грубых ошибок из-за которых вы проигрывали большие банки (более 20бб), неправильно оценив спектр оппонента или его реакцию на ваши действия.

 

В данном топе вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этой темой. 

[bonjwa]

Можно найти фолд на одной из улиц или играем на стек Опп

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $34.22 (68.4 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
MP1: $84.27 (168.5 bb)
MP2: $67.71 (135.4 bb)
MP3: $94.44 (188.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $77.32 (154.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif
2 folds, MP3 raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $3.75, 3 folds, MP3 calls $2.50

Flop: ($8.25) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $4.44, MP3 raises to $9.46, Hero calls $5.02

Turn: ($27.17) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
MP3 bets $81.23 and is all-in, Hero calls $36.79 and is all-in

River: ($100.75) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players, 2 are all-in)

[bonjwa]

Норм блеф или всё ужасно. Статистика не сохранилась, новую базу оформил

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/GGzJYRu.png

http://i.imgur.com/sq9RKO3.png

http://i.imgur.com/gbfpUC0.png

 

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $108.02 (216 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
MP1: $50 (100 bb)
MP2: $68.90 (137.8 bb)
MP3: $71.56 (143.1 bb)
CO: $51.25 (102.5 bb)
BTN: $51.39 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif
4 folds, BTN raises to $1.03, SB folds, Hero calls $0.53

Flop: ($2.31) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($5.81) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero raises to $12.01, BTN calls $8.01

River: ($29.83) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $35.21 and is all-in, BTN calls $35.21

[anton1989x]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $54.80 (109.6 bb)

BB: $64.35 (128.7 bb)

MP: $50 (100 bb)

CO: $88.05 (176.1 bb)

BTN: $52.25 (104.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

MP raises to $2, CO calls $2, BTN folds, Hero raises to $6, BB folds, MP calls $4, CO calls $4

 

Flop: ($18.50) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (3 players)

Hero bets $13.87, MP calls $13.87, CO calls $13.87

 

Turn: ($60.11) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (3 players)

Hero bets $34.93 and is all-in, MP calls $30.13 and is all-in, CO calls $34.93

 

River: ($160.10) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (3 players, 2 are all-in)

 

статы на оппов, МП рег, второй какойто фишеватый:

 http://s27.postimg.org/48ar9ybcz/hand1stats170815.jpg

Как сыграно, просто на тёрне осообо не вижу рук хуже которые заколят от рега кроме разве что QQ, может лучше чекать тёрн ?? 

[bonjwa]

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/elTjYQj.png

http://i.imgur.com/Z3gyEfM.png

http://i.imgur.com/w589kZD.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $57.13 (114.3 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $11.09 (22.2 bb)
MP1: $62.43 (124.9 bb)
MP2: $15.75 (31.5 bb)
Hero (MP3): $50 (100 bb)
CO: $45.76 (91.5 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, 2 folds, BB raises to $7.50, UTG+2 calls $7, Hero calls $5.50, CO folds

Flop: ($24.75) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (3 players)
BB bets $6.50, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $6.50

Turn: ($37.75) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

River: ($54.75) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $27.50 and is all-in, Hero folds

[anton1989x]

On Game, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $76.93 (153.9 bb)

BB: $43.87 (87.7 bb)

UTG: $50.04 (100.1 bb)

MP: $46.50 (93 bb)

CO: $44.99 (90 bb)

BTN: $38.93 (77.9 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

 

Flop: ($9) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

 

Turn: ($19) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $11, Hero calls $11

 

River: ($41) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $23.37, Hero calls $23.37

 

Статы:

 http://s10.postimg.org/tq2w9m9c9/hand2astats170815.jpg

 

http://s10.postimg.org/c1b5hzxl5/hand2stats170815.jpg

Оппонент рег, безжалостоно меня 3бетит, решил защитить одномастный коннектор без позы. Как сыграно? Можно ли против такого защищать коннекторы без позы, на каких бордах оказывать сопротивление? есть ли смысл с ФД+гатшот на тёрне играть чек/пуш ? Если бы ривер не доехал то залил бы крупный банк (( на бланковом ривере надо было бы падать ? 

[IvanDuke]

Раз уже влип, то надо ли колить ривер?  Как используя статы правильно подсчитать?

 

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 $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players 

 

SB: $100.00

Hero (BB): $100.00

UTG: $91.26

CO: $100.50

BTN: $199.20

 

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A T

2 folds, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

 

Flop: ($4.50) Q 2 8 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $2.86, Hero calls $2.86

 

Turn: ($10.22) A (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $7, Hero calls $7

 

River: ($24.22) 4 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $16, Hero ???

 

[IvanDuke]

Префлоп можна 3б, но позади пасивные реги и на бб фиш, решыл кол.

После прикинул, и получилось что на терне вроди уже нет вельюбета   , ведь у оппа мало разномасных комб.

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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players 

 

BB: $23.02

UTG: $50.00

Hero (CO): $52.98

BTN: $136.38

SB: $55.44

 

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 9 8

UTG raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold

 

Flop: ($6.50) 3 5 J (4 players)

SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, SB calls $4.50, UTG folds

 

Turn: ($20.00) 2 (3 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $14, BTN folds, SB raises to $49.44 all in, Hero calls $32.98 all in

 

River: ($113.96) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)