Bet или не bet, вот в чём вопрос... Оценка раздач, по теме "Причины для ставок". (13.02.2016) - 14.00

[KycokTopTa]

Данная тренировка будет посвящена причинам для ставок. Если вы испытываете сложности в определении причины для ставки, или не понимаете когда ставить, а когда нет, то вам сюда.

 

Здесь вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этим вопросом. 

[Newna]

по терну там ясно, что бета нет.. но меня все поголовно пытаются убедить уходить в чек-колл с флопа

опп

 

 

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Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2860389

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BB: $22.44

Hero (UTG): $26.45

CO: $25.35

BTN: $32.24

SB: $25.00

 

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with K   T 

Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($1.85) T   Q   J   (2 players)

Hero bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20

 

Turn: ($4.25) 8   (2 players)

Hero bets $2.60, BTN calls $2.60

 

River: ($9.45) 9   (2 players)

Hero bets $3.50, BTN raises to $27.69 all in, Hero folds

 

[TroyMaster7]

Терн,ривер?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $25 (100 bb)

Hero (BB): $34.14 (136.6 bb)

MP: $25.24 (101 bb)

CO: $25.92 (103.7 bb)

BTN: $45.07 (180.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, MP calls $2.50, CO folds

 

Flop: ($7.35) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $4.63, MP calls $4.63

 

Turn: ($16.61) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, MP checks

 

River: ($16.61) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $7.93, MP raises to $17.36 and is all-in, Hero calls $9.43

 

 

 

[Raskolnikov]

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $8.93 (89.3 bb)
BB: $10.70 (107 bb)
Hero (UTG): $16.51 (165.1 bb)
MP: $11.16 (111.6 bb)
CO: $10.51 (105.1 bb)
BTN: $21.12 (211.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.20, MP calls $1.20, BTN calls $1.20

Flop: ($6.05) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, MP calls $3, 2 folds

Turn: ($12.05) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $6.66 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results:

$12.05 pot ($0.54 rake)
Final Board: Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
Hero mucked Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif and lost (-$4.50 net)
MP mucked and won $11.51 ($7.01 net)

 

Это попап рега на ББ, который сквизил

 

http://i75.fastpic.ru/big/2016/0212/f8/4d38205d2ef6ae30f0927f2a23a38ef8.jpg

 

 

Это оппонент с МР

 

 

http://i75.fastpic.ru/big/2016/0212/6c/ae1601d755b80ded64bec298b700b86c.jpg

http://i76.fastpic.ru/big/2016/0212/a3/f8e0750f9627f7f399f098ede944b5a3.jpg

 

 

 

Как лучше было сыграть на префлопе, стоило ли против сквизера играть пушем или правильней будет играть кол?

Как правильней было бы играть на постфлопе, есть ли у нас бет на тонкое велью, или лучше играть чек/кол флоп, чек/фолд терн или лучше какие-то другие линии розыгрыша?

[gesperid]

Рука из оценки.

Сквиз пот as pfr oop против малоизвестного открывавшегося рега.

[Plahin]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

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SB: $30.89 (61.8 bb)

BB: $50 (100 bb)

MP: $101.13 (202.3 bb)

Hero (CO): $50.75 (101.5 bb)

BTN: $48.85 (97.7 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

MP folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

 

Flop: ($2.75) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BB raises to $6.43, Hero calls $4.68

 

Turn: ($15.61) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

 

River: ($35.61) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $32.32 and is all-in, Hero calls $32.32

 

 

 

[Plahin]

Есть ли колл на префлопе и есть ли вельюбет на терне?

 

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $39.15 (78.3 bb)

BB: $83.26 (166.5 bb)

UTG: $99 (198 bb)

MP: $56.78 (113.6 bb)

CO: $50 (100 bb)

Hero (BTN): $53.58 (107.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

UTG folds, MP raises to $1.43, CO folds, Hero calls $1.43, SB calls $1.18, BB raises to $5.48, MP calls $4.05, Hero calls $4.05, SB calls $4.05

 

Flop: ($21.92) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (4 players)

SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $10, Hero calls $10, 2 folds

 

Turn: ($41.92) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

MP checks, Hero bets $21.96, MP raises to $41.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $16.14 and is all-in

 

River: ($118.12) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players, 2 are all-in)

 

 

[gesperid]

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $10.48 (104.8 bb)

BB: $12.18 (121.8 bb)

Hero (UTG): $15.15 (151.5 bb)

MP: $8.22 (82.2 bb)

CO: $11.33 (113.3 bb)

BTN: $16.19 (161.9 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

 

Flop: ($1.05) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (3 players)

Hero bets $0.60, MP folds, CO raises to $2, Hero folds

 

колопен 13% вс ранних, 4% 3бет. Кол кбет 29%, рейз кбет 18% в позе.

[gesperid]

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

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SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)

BB: $10 (100 bb)

Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)

BTN: $9.64 (96.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is CO with Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($0.75) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $0.61, BTN calls $0.61

 

Turn: ($1.97) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $1, Hero calls $1

 

River: ($3.97) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

 

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