Проблемные топ пары, ч.2. Разбор сложных спотов при розыгрыше ТП. Тренировка для Нл50-Нл200. (02.12.2015) - 18.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка будет посвящена игре с топа парами, как в рейженных потах, так и в 3бет потах и разбору тех ситуаций в которых игрок не знает, как лучше разыграть его топ пару. 

 

Здесь вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этим вопросом. 

[regtime]

Опп рег 25/21/8, rfi CO-35%, fold to 3bet CO IP-0(7), 4bet-29%(7), fold to cbet in 3bp flop-33%(9), aggr 32/32/24, WWSF-50, WTSD-34, WonSD-61

 

 $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $29.91 (29.9 bb)

Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)

UTG: $136.67 (136.7 bb)

MP: $295.97 (296 bb)

CO: $139.34 (139.3 bb)

BTN: $61.24 (61.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, CO calls $6.50

 

Flop: ($18.50) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $10.87, CO calls $10.87

 

Turn: ($40.24) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $23.18, CO calls $23.18

 

River: ($86.60) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $20.50,Hero ?

 

Мог бы ты показать, как здесь играть весь наш рендж? Хотя бы то, что мы ставим 3 улицы без чек/коллов(как распределять вельюбеты и блефы).

Можно взять рендж 3бета BBvsBU 10-15%.

[leshick]

Оппонент на МБ абсолютно неизвестный - играет вторую раздачу, скорее всего не регуляр - не докупился до 100 блайндов.

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SB: $198.00

BB: $287.13

UTG: $283.02

MP: $1102.04

Hero (CO): $200.00

BTN: $232.06

 

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with 8 A

2 folds, Hero raises to $4.90, 1 fold, SB calls $3.90, 1 fold

 

Flop: ($11.80) 2 Q A (2 players)

SB bets $5.63, Hero calls $5.63

 

Turn: ($23.06) 3 (2 players)

SB bets $11.01, Hero calls $11.01

 

River: ($45.08) 6 (2 players)

SB checks, Hero?  

Сколько нужно ставить в подобных ситуациях? Или лучше чекнуть?

 

[leshick]

На СБ  - рыбка 48/10.  Squeeze 12. Fold to bet River 73.

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MP: $100.00

CO: $100.00

BTN: $106.60

SB: $283.40

BB: $131.96

Hero (UTG): $242.53

 

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A K

Hero raises to $3, MP calls $3, CO calls $3, BTN calls $3, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $23, 3 folds, SB calls $13

 

Flop: ($56.00) 2 9 A (2 players)

SB bets $15, Hero calls $15

 

Turn: ($86.00) 6 (2 players)

SB bets $30, Hero calls $30

 

River: ($146.00) 4 (2 players)

SB checks, Hero?

Может стоило порейзить на флопе или терне? Сколько добираем на ривере?

 

[Const]

Опп полуфиш 25/14

Cold Call BU 26

3Bet BUvsCO

Fold ColdCall vs squeeze 79%

4bet range 0.9

Fold to CB IP 3BP 53/23/0

Bet vs miss CB 58/44/80

AGG% 28/36/33

Raise & won SD 56/69/67

 

На флопе хотел, чтобы опп внёс мёртвые деньги, решил играть от чека. Тёрном положил его на среднюю кармашку, инода с бубной. Чтобы не выбить ФД слабее решил ставить небольшой сайзинг. Ривером добирал с 88-ТТ. Пуш очень блефовый на мой взгляд. Стрейты и сеты не пушат, флаши чаще рейзят такой минбет тёрна. Плюс имеем блокер на флаш.

 

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SB: $79.57 (159.1 bb)

Hero (BB): $56.08 (112.2 bb)

MP: $77.36 (154.7 bb)

CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

BTN: $84.08 (168.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

MP folds, CO raises to $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $6.75, CO folds, BTN calls $5.50

 

Flop: ($15) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

 

Turn: ($15) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $4, BTN calls $4

 

River: ($23) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $5.25, BTN raises to $40.95, Hero?

 

 

 

[Const]

Опп рег 17/15. Вообще он МССник, но тут за этим столом настриг и мы с ним в 250bb стеках оказались.

MP RFI 19 
MP Fold to 3bet oop 51

MP Call 3bet oop range 3,5

MP 4bet range 4,2

Fold to 5bet 38

 

Fold to CB OOP 41/20/100

Raise CB OOP 3bp 27/20/-

AGG% 46/34/19

 

У меня на него нотс, что он дрова резит. Жутко не хотел получить от него рейз в таких глубоких стеках. Можно ли чекать флоп, или нужно обязательно ставить на такой структуре? Ведь любая бубна или бродвейная карта делает из нашей велью руки блафкечер и вместо двух улиц велью часто только одну улицу соберём.

 

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SB: $46.55 (93.1 bb)

BB: $50 (100 bb)

UTG+2: $51.50 (103 bb)

MP1: $122.49 (245 bb)

MP2: $68.06 (136.1 bb)

Hero (MP3): $140.25 (280.5 bb)

CO: $50 (100 bb)

BTN: $50.60 (101.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif

UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.25, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $4.75, 4 folds, MP1 calls $3.50

 

Flop: ($10.25) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

MP1 checks, Hero checks

 

Turn: ($10.25) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

MP1 bets $5, Hero calls $5

 

River: ($20.25) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

MP1 checks, Hero checks

 

 

[LogAnt]

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SB: $31.68 (158.4 bb) 29 / 19 / 3b 0 / ftcb 60 (5) 118 

BB: $15.49 (77.5 bb)

CO: $13.28 (66.4 bb)

Hero (BTN): $20 (100 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

CO folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB folds

 

Flop: ($1.20) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $1.10, SB calls $1.10

 

Turn: ($3.40) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $2.80, SB raises to $6.20, Hero calls $3.40

 

River: ($15.80) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $7.90, Hero calls $7.90

 

Фолдим или по шансам поколлить?

 

[Const]

Опп рег 19/15

Call open CO 9

3bet CO vs EP 3,8

Fold to 4bet IP CO 55

 

Fold to Cbet IP 49/45/43

Float 37/66/14

AGG% 30/28/24

 

Какую линию лучше выбрать? Чек-колл, чек-колл, чек-фолд?

 

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SB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)

BB: $25.63 (51.3 bb)

Hero (UTG+1): $50.75 (101.5 bb)

UTG+2: $64.66 (129.3 bb)

MP1: $55.05 (110.1 bb)

MP2: $68.32 (136.6 bb)

MP3: $77.78 (155.6 bb)

CO: $61.66 (123.3 bb)

BTN: $70.89 (141.8 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1.50, 4 folds

 

Flop: ($3.75) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $2.36, MP3 calls $2.36

 

Turn: ($8.47) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $5.33, MP3 calls $5.33

 

River: ($19.13) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, MP3 bets $12, Hero folds

 

 

[LogAnt]

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SB: $20.70 (103.5 bb)

Hero (BB): $20.91 (104.6 bb)

UTG: $22.20 (111 bb) 27 / 22 / utg 18 / http://prntscr.com/99hosm

MP: $28.74 (143.7 bb)

CO: $23.56 (117.8 bb)

BTN: $28.66 (143.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

UTG raises to $0.60, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.40

 

Flop: ($1.30) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, UTG bets $0.91, Hero calls $0.91

 

Turn: ($3.12) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, UTG bets $2.18, Hero calls $2.18

 

River: ($7.48) Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

 

 

[dobry33]

Как думаете, что в общем случае? такой оппонент НЕ флоатит на CO (при флоат IP turn 78%)

и что будет флоатить oop BB (при флоате OOP 57%)

BB 48/33 /сквиз 16/ call cb flop 44

CO 36/6 call open CO 18 /fold на CB flop 48/turn 33/флоат IP turn 78%

 

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SB: $41.67 (138.9 bb)

BB: $11.56 (38.5 bb)

Hero (MP): $57.40 (191.3 bb)

CO: $38.67 (128.9 bb)

BTN: $34.37 (114.6 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

Hero raises to $1.05, CO calls $1.05, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

 

Flop: ($3.30) Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (3 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $2.47, CO calls $2.47, BB calls $2.47

 

Turn: ($10.71) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (3 players)

BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

 

River: ($10.71) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (3 players)

BB bets $8.04

 

 

 

 

[LogAnt]

IPoker, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

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SB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)

Hero (BB): $50.75 (101.5 bb)

UTG: $50 (100 bb)

MP: $103.23 (206.5 bb)

CO: $83.15 (166.3 bb) 20 / 15 / co oR 22 / c rest. ran 7.2 / 

BTN: $97.48 (195 bb) 30 / 23 / bu cc 16 / ft3b ip 38 / http://prntscr.com/99hs0w

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $7, CO calls $5.50, BTN calls $5.50

 

Flop: ($21.25) Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (3 players)

Hero bets $8.50, CO folds, BTN calls $8.50

 

Turn: ($38.25) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $11.50, BTN folds

 

Там получается что против двух спектров у нас не будет вэлью бета, получается на флопе чекать надо? Или тут уже будет по совокупности вэлью и полублеф с целью выбить эквити? 

 

[Kuro4ka_ustala]

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SB: $28.55 (114.2 bb)

BB: $25.35 (101.4 bb)

UTG+1: $16.86 (67.4 bb)

UTG+2: $25.35 (101.4 bb)

MP1: $25.35 (101.4 bb)

MP2: $20 (80 bb)

MP3: $25.35 (101.4 bb)

CO: $42.66 (170.6 bb)

Hero (BTN): $44.61 (178.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

5 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, CO calls $0.75

 

Flop: ($2.35) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

CO bets $1, Hero calls $1

 

Turn: ($4.35) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

CO bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

 

River: ($7.85) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

CO bets $3, Hero calls $3

 

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