Исильдур стайл. Использование и противостояние потбетам и овербетам. Тренировка для Нл50-Нл200. (02.10.2015) - 18.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка будет посвящена разбору ситуаций и оппонентов подходящих для потбетов и овербетов, а также нашей игре против оппонентов применяющих данное оружие. 

 

Здесь вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с этим вопросом.

[Lightsout]

На префлопе заколлировал потому что он против меня частит с трибетами, а также часто играет чек-фолд на флопе.

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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

 

SB: $52.93 (105.9 bb)

BB: $53.62 (107.2 bb)

UTG: $53.75 (107.5 bb)

MP: $66.05 (132.1 bb)

Hero (CO): $61.97 (123.9 bb)

BTN: $34.58 (69.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3.25

 

Flop: ($9.25) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $5.74, BB calls $5.74

 

Turn: ($20.73) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero checks

 

River: ($20.73) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

BB bets $43.38, Hero calls $43.38

 

Results: $107.49 pot ($2.50 rake)

 

 

[Lightsout]

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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

 

SB: $71.17 (142.3 bb)

Hero (BB): $58.22 (116.4 bb)

UTG: $59.96 (119.9 bb)

MP: $25.30 (50.6 bb)

CO: $33.47 (66.9 bb)

BTN: $106.43 (212.9 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

3 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50

 

Flop: ($2.25) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

 

Turn: ($5.25) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero raises to $12.50, BTN calls $9

 

River: ($30.25) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero bets $43.22 and is all-in, BTN ...

 

[222Pau]

Две похожие раздачи одна в широком спектре оппонента, другая в узком. Оппоненты неизвестные(средние регуляры). Интересны наши диапазоны продолжения.

1) $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
 
SB: $218.20 (109.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $215.90 (108 bb)
UTG: $206.42 (103.2 bb)
MP: $209.46 (104.7 bb)
CO: $252.55 (126.3 bb)
BTN: $395.89 (197.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif
3 folds, BTN raises to $4.10, SB folds, Hero calls $2.10

Flop: ($9.20) Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($21.20) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $32.40 , Hero ?
 

 

 

 

2) $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
 
SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $80.94 (80.9 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $101.50 (101.5 bb)
CO: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
BTN: $118.13 (118.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, CO folds, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $21, Hero ?

[iam7yo]

Опп рег 21/17

 

 

 

 

 

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $66.06 (132.1 bb)

BB: $61.26 (122.5 bb)

UTG: $49.34 (98.7 bb)

MP: $50.50 (101 bb)

CO: $34.50 (69 bb)

BTN: $99.09 (198.2 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

3 folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero raises to $4.25, BB folds, BTN raises to $9, Hero calls $4.75

 

Flop: ($18.50) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero calls $6

 

Turn: ($30.50) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN checks

 

River: ($30.50) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $84.09 and is all-in, Hero folds

 

Results:

$30.50 pot ($1.37 rake)

Final Board: 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif 

Hero mucked Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif and lost (-$15 net)

BTN mucked and won $29.13 ($14.13 net)

 

 

[idn07]

Хотелось бы услышать теорию о применении овербетов - где и как их следует использовать.

 

Стоит ли их применять только против капнутых диапазонов?

 

Стоит ли разделять диапазон на ставки обычным сайзом и овербеты  - ведь в таком случае мы сами капаем свой диапазон ставя обычный сайз, где у нас есть и рэнж овербета.

 

Есть ли какието стандартные сайзы овербетов, стоит ли придерживаться одного сайза или использовать разные?

 

Как отличается использование потбетов?

 

Стоит ли рейзить овербеты где-нибудь кроме ривера? 

 

 

 

 

[REaZON]

Открыл 22 с MP из-за фиша на SB

Статы:

48/9 на 665 рук, cc SB vs MP 34(29) 3bet 7,4(27); x/f OOP 62(37)/ 83(6)/ 0(1); x/r 0(37)/ 0(6)/ 0(1); Dbet HU 35(72) Dbet/fold 17(18) Dbet/3bet 0(16); WTSD 34 W$SD 46(92) AFq 38 27 39 WWSF 43

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

BB: $54.52

Hero (UTG): $50.00

CO: $70.20

BTN: $52.06

SB: $52.54

 

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 2 2

Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold

 

Flop: ($3.50) 2 T 6 (2 players)

SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $9.75, SB calls $8.25

 

Turn: ($23.00) 5 (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $38.75 all in

 

[REaZON]

Чек/рейзим терн или можно чек/коллить, давая ему возможность блефануть?

Статы:

54/10 на 197 рук, R1st 19(21)/ 21(34)/ 0(26)/ 20(15)/ 8(12); Limp 33(21)/ 41(34)/ 69(26)/ 60(15)/ 75(12); total Limp 53; Limp/fold 49(35) Limp/raise 11(35); WTSD 25(75) W$SD 32(19) AFq 58(74) 76(50) 50(22) WWSF 48; bet flop Lpot 29(34); Attempt to steal Lpot (bet flop IP) 33(18); fold IP flop SRpot 71(7); raise Cb 29(7); float flop IP 100(8);

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

Hero (BB): $50.00

UTG: $60.14

MP: $57.02

CO: $70.83

BTN: $64.16

SB: $57.38

 

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A 3

2 folds, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero checks

 

Flop: ($1.25) A 7 K (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2

 

Turn: ($5.25) 3 (2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero raises to $11.75 ?

 

[REaZON]

Статы:

25/19 на 12к рук, R1st SB 39; f2 3bet 50, 4b 6; Cb IP 51/ 46/ 59(22); Cb/fold flop 25(12); delayed Cb turn 33;  x flop IP fold turn 75; WTSD 29 W$SD 51 AFq 29 29 22 WWSF 40

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hero (BB): $50.75
UTG: $78.52
CO: $62.34
BTN: $50.00
SB: $36.87
 
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 7 J
2 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75
 
Flop: ($2.75) A 9 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
 
Turn: ($2.75) 3 (2 players)
Hero бет терн с планом бетить и ривер? Если блефуем, каким сайзингом?

[regtime]

Опп рег, рук мало

$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $222.96 (223 bb)

BB: $100 (100 bb)

Hero (UTG): $145.78 (145.8 bb)

MP: $40 (40 bb)

CO: $100 (100 bb)

BTN: $101.50 (101.5 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif

Hero raises to $2.87, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.87, 2 folds

 

Flop: ($7.24) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $3.62, Hero calls $3.62

 

Turn: ($14.48) 6http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $10.86, Hero calls $10.86

 

River: ($36.20) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $70, Hero ?