Сложности в 3бет потах, ч.1. Тренировка для Нл16 и ниже. (21.08.2015) - 18.00

[Boggart York]

Данная тренировка будет посвящена различным ситуациям при игре в 3бет потах на низких лимитах, в которых вы не знали как правильно сыграть и испытывали сложности при выборе линии розыгрыша.

 

Здесь вы можете выкладывать свои раздачи и вопросы, связанные с данным вопросом.

[bonjwa]

Опп 949рук

http://i.imgur.com/XJMDfQV.png

http://i.imgur.com/I6LeVXI.png

http://i.imgur.com/1ZfftBH.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $25.10 (100.4 bb)
BB: $32.82 (131.3 bb)
UTG+1: $22.30 (89.2 bb)
UTG+2: $25.92 (103.7 bb)
MP1: $25.35 (101.4 bb)
MP2: $26.01 (104 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25.62 (102.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif
UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 5 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.85) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.56, UTG+1 calls $2.56

Turn: ($9.97) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4.98, UTG+1 calls $4.98

River: ($19.93) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $12.51 and is all-in, Hero folds

[bonjwa]

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/XGGNi3s.png

http://i.imgur.com/3gWWofv.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $17.48 (69.9 bb)
BB: $56.46 (225.8 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): $25.68 (102.7 bb)
UTG+2: $26.05 (104.2 bb)
MP1: $28.84 (115.4 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $28.16 (112.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif
Hero raises to $0.70, UTG+2 calls $0.70, MP1 raises to $3.25, 6 folds, Hero calls $2.55, UTG+2 folds

Flop: ($7.55) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($15.55) 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

River: ($15.55) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10.39, MP1 calls $10.39

[bonjwa]

Опп

http://i.imgur.com/OQcGhel.png

http://i.imgur.com/UjfTwGN.png

 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

SB: $30.94 (123.8 bb)
BB: $26.25 (105 bb)
MP: $25.78 (103.1 bb)
CO: $15.87 (63.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Jhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.51, SB folds, BB raises to $2.65, Hero calls $2.14

Flop: ($5.40) 2http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $3.40, Hero calls $3.40

Turn: ($12.20) 4http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4.12, Hero calls $4.12

River: ($20.44) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif (2 players)
BB bets $5.84, Hero folds

[HabaNaHaba]

Опп: агрессия 33/28/27. WTSD 31 W$SD 46 WWSF 41

http://i68.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0921/4b/328d7f8cbd6f5153865ff61657faad4b.png 

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

SB: $26.45 (105.8 bb)

BB: $26.82 (107.3 bb)

CO: $54.02 (216.1 bb)

Hero (BTN): $25.72 (102.9 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

CO folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.50, BB folds, Hero calls $1.75

 

Flop: ($5.25) 5http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif 7http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/spade4.gif Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

 

Turn: ($12.75) 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero checks

 

River: ($12.75) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players)

SB bets $6.09, Hero?

 

Как играть на терне? Против такого оппонента фолдить ривер?

[Dimentiy54]

На ББ фиш с 80/49 на 42 руки на СО регуляр со статами на 126 рук

 

 

http://i72.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0921/db/c65c73d9668aa7d87ac8d8641c6358db.png

 

 

По шансам ли колл??

 

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)

BB: $2.03 (40.6 bb)

MP: $5 (100 bb)

CO: $5.68 (113.6 bb)

BTN: $5.77 (115.4 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif

MP folds, CO raises to $0.20, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.18, BB raises to $0.80, CO raises to $5.68, Hero ??

 

 

[yozhzh]

Можешь ли построить спектр игры на терне  в таком споте:

мы 3б на SB, BTN call 3bet. Будем считать, что БТН более менее сбалансированный рег. RFI BTN 50%, fold to 3bet 55, фолды не эксплойтные. Бет вс миссед 50%, фолд после чек бэка 50%.
 

выходит флоп Th 5d 2d.

Мы играем от по концепции защищенных диапазонов и чекаем, какой-то свой рэйндж. И опп играет чек бэк.

 

и приходит 7d закрывающая флэш. Не мог бы ты построить балансную игру на терне. с нашим рэйнджем.

если интересно, то у меня получилось, что я на терне с этим рэйнджем
AA,99-88,AKs,QTs,JTs,T9s-T8s,AhQh,AcQc,AsQs,AcJc,AsJs,AdTd,Ac9c,As9s,Ac5c,As5s,Ah4h,Ah3h,AcKh,AdKh,AsKh,AhKc,AdKc,AsKc,AhKs,AcKs,AdKs,KcQc,KsQs,KcJc,KsJs,KdTd,AcQh,AdQh,AsQh,AhQc,AdQc,AsQc,AhQs,AcQs,AdQs,QcJc,QsJs,Jc9c,Js9s,9c8c,9s8s,8c7c,8s7s,7c6c,7s6s,[50]77,Ac8c,As8s,Ac7c,As7s,Ac6c,As6s,Kc9c,Ks9s,KcQh,KsQh,KhQc,KsQc,KhQs,KcQs,Qc9c,Qs9s,AcJh,AsJh,AhJc,AsJc,AhJs,AcJs,Jc8c,Js8s,9c7c,9s7s,8c6c,8s6s[/50]

но и надо сказать, что диапазоны сильно отличаются от твоих, так что если ты просто накидаешь от своего рэйнджа было бы тоже хорошо.

[Dimentiy54]

Фиш на 135 рук

 

 

http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0921/ca/cd6cbbb2541418c2bcc5c5e5e163b4ca.png

 

 

 

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. 

 

Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)

BB: $8.06 (161.2 bb)

CO: $5 (100 bb)

BTN: $4.93 (98.6 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.40

 

Flop: ($1.20) Thttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif 8http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif Ahttp://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.55

 

Turn: ($2.70) 9http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif (2 players)

Hero checks, BB bets $2.59, Hero raises to $3.65 and is all-in, BB calls $1.06

 

River: ($10) 3http://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/heart4.gif (2 players, 1 is all-in)

 

Results: $10 pot ($0.42 rake)

 

[reason]

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

CO: $8.73
Hero (BTN): $23.14
SB: $10.68
BB: $12.81
UTG: $10.96

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K T
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 6 4 9 (2 players)
SB bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.40) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.62, SB calls $1.62

River: ($6.64) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
 

неизвестный рег

[reason]

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players

Hero (CO): $10.25
BTN: $10.69
SB: $10.00
BB: $10.40

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q A
Hero raises to $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.30, Hero calls $1.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.90) A K J (2 players)
BB bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

Turn: ($6.10) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $2.90, Hero folds

 неизвестный рег

[reason]

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players

Hero (BB): $20.90
UTG: $10.41
CO: $15.24
BTN: $12.16
SB: $7.09

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A K
1 fold, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.30, CO calls $1, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.95) 5 8 A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.95) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($5.95) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.84, CO calls $2.84
 

неизвестный рег

[reason]

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

UTG: $5.25
MP: $15.28
CO: $21.66
BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $10.22
BB: $4.34

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.20, CO calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, 1 fold, MP calls $1, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.70) 9 J 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, MP calls $2.20

Turn: ($7.10) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

River: ($9.90) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $10.48 all in, Hero folds
 

103h | 43/11

 

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[mauserr]

 

PokerStars Hand #141092554758:  Holdem No Limit ($0.08/$0.16 USD) - 2015/09/20 17:43:07 CUST [2015/09/20 10:43:07 ET]

The Official ProPokerPro Hand Converter

 

7 players (stacks):

SB ($19.7)

Hero (BB) ($18.04)

MP1 ($10.62)

MP2 ($21.86)

MP3 ($16)

CO ($19.59)

BTN ($6.08)

Blinds: $0.08/$0.16

 

Pre-flop: ($0.24, 7 players) Hero is BB: K   , K 

4 folds, BTN raises to $0.32, SB calls $0.24, Hero raises to $2.24, BTN folds, SB calls $1.92

 

Flop: 4   , T   , Q   ($4.8, 2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $3.36, SB raises to $7.52, Hero raises to $15.8 (All-in), SB calls $8.28

 

Turn: 7   ($36.4, 2 players, 1 All-in)

 

River: 3   ($36.4, 2 players, 1 All-in)

 

Final Pot: $36.4

 

 

http://s017.radikal.ru/i422/1509/cd/739850aeae93.jpg

http://s018.radikal.ru/i528/1509/75/13f5989ed831.jpg

 

 

После рейза нужно доставить 12,44 за банк 36,4. Шансы банка 34%.

 

Спектр рейза похож? 

http://i016.radikal.ru/1509/b4/9affa24347f0.jpg

 

Пушить получается минусово с учетом рейка. Кол? Фолд?    Тут вероятно пара комб в спектре будут менять плюсовое выставление на минусовое.   

Если колить рейз, на терне у меня останется 8,28 за банк 36,4. Шансы банка 23%. Получается на любом не бубновом ранауте выставляемся?   

http://s011.radikal.ru/i316/1509/9b/e3522f3521f0.jpg

 

[yozhzh]

На оппа 100 рук, одним словом неизвестный. Предположительно рег


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2786365
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $165.74
SB: $50.00
Hero (BB): $117.75
UTG: $50.00
MP: $54.67
CO: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.75, CO calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.75) Q 9 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

Turn: ($19.75) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero folds
 

[Lolik]

Опп 16/13/ фолд на 3б 48/ввсф46/ втш 26/6к рук

 

стил баттон 39 фолд на рестил 29

фолд в позе в трибет поте 29/31

 

[mauserr]

PokerStars Hand #141094667404:  Holdem No Limit ($0.08/$0.16 USD) - 2015/09/20 18:31:57 CUST [2015/09/20 11:31:57 ET]

The Official ProPokerPro Hand Converter

 

8 players (stacks):

SB ($36.16)

BB ($16.42)

UTG2 ($19.56)

Hero (MP1) ($16.56)

MP2 ($22.05)

MP3 ($17.4)

CO ($20.38)

BTN ($15.36)

Blinds: $0.08/$0.16

 

Pre-flop: ($0.24, 8 players) Hero is MP1: Q , A

UTG2 calls $0.16, Hero raises to $0.48, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.8, 3 folds, UTG2 calls $0.64, Hero calls $0.32

 

Flop: 8 , 7 , Q ($2.64, 3 players)

UTG2 checks, Hero checks, CO bets $1.26, UTG2 folds, Hero calls $1.26

 

Turn: 3 ($5.16, 2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $2.46, Hero calls $2.46

 

River: 6 ($10.08, 2 players)

Hero checks, CO bets $4.81, Hero folds

 

Final Pot: $10.08

http://s019.radikal.ru/i633/1509/96/fb7e87ac70a1.jpg

http://s019.radikal.ru/i638/1509/c4/f7dd6095c8fc.jpg

[IvanDuke]

Опп

 http://i72.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0921/2b/ca6e19ae71dd559feabaa418d0f9f32b.png

http://i72.fastpic.ru/big/2015/0921/ed/06d174748ed6edb8870332b1e19394ed.png

 

 

Hero (SB): $100.00

BB: $113.73

CO: $156.70

BTN: $100.00

 

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 7 6

1 fold, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, BTN calls $6.50

 

Flop: ($19.00) T T 3 (2 players)

Hero bets $9, BTN calls $9

 

Turn: ($37.00) 7 (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $17.75, Hero calls $17.75

 

River: ($72.50) Q (2 players)

Hero checks, BTN bets $64.25 all in, Hero calls $64.25 all in